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Re: Bonus Point : Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:11 pm  
We may well be grateful if that's all we can gain from sunday's fixture.........



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Re: Bonus Point : Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:11 am  
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We may well be grateful if that's all we can gain from sunday's fixture"


Why?

If we get a bonus point on Sunday we will be on the same position as we will be if we loose.
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Re: Bonus Point : Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:49 am  
How stupid is a system where, theoretically, a team can lose all 18 games by less than 12 points and finish the season on 18 points whereas another team can win 5, draw 1 and finish below them on 17 points? :roll:
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Re: Bonus Point : Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:19 pm  
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How stupid is a system where, theoretically, a team can lose all 18 games by less than 12 points and finish the season on 18 points whereas another team can win 5, draw 1 and finish below them on 17 points? :roll:


Unlikely, obviously.

But the first team has, arguably, contributed more to the games it lost.

Let's look at the effect of going back to 2-1-0.

You get one less point for winning.
You get one less point for drawing.
You get one less point for losing by 12 or less.
You get exactly the same as now for losing by more than 12.

How would that benefit anyone except teams who lose by a big margin ? :?

Why would you want to favour teams who give in ?
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Re: Bonus Point : Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:47 pm  
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Unlikely, obviously.

But the first team has, arguably, contributed more to the games it lost.

Let's look at the effect of going back to 2-1-0.

You get one less point for winning.
You get one less point for drawing.
You get one less point for losing by 12 or less.
You get exactly the same as now for losing by more than 12.

How would that benefit anyone except teams who lose by a big margin ? :?

Why would you want to favour teams who give in ?


Lose by 12 or 50, you still lose. You should play for pride, not a bonus point.

If the system is so good then SL should adopt it too which was the original idea if it worked so the trial period should now be over. Either have the system throughout the game or drop it altogether.
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Re: Bonus Point : Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:00 pm  
griff1998 wrote:
Unlikely, obviously.

But the first team has, arguably, contributed more to the games it lost.

Let's look at the effect of going back to 2-1-0.

You get one less point for winning.
You get one less point for drawing.
You get one less point for losing by 12 or less.
You get exactly the same as now for losing by more than 12.

How would that benefit anyone except teams who lose by a big margin ? :?

Why would you want to favour teams who give in ?


:DANCE:
Have you ever played sport?
All I can say is that in all my years of playing Amateur Rugby League and Rugby Union if we were losing I would still play as hard as possible for, pride, not a bonus point. Losing should not be rewarded.
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Re: Bonus Point : Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:16 pm  
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Re: Bonus Point : Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:04 pm  
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Have you ever played sport?
All I can say is that in all my years of playing Amateur Rugby League and Rugby Union if we were losing I would still play as hard as possible for, pride, not a bonus point. Losing should not be rewarded.
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Losers still (at least) two points behind winners. How is that rewarding losers? :?

Seems obvious to me. But - then - I'm thinking about it.
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Re: Bonus Point : Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:52 pm  
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Losers still (at least) two points behind winners. How is that rewarding losers? :?

Seems obvious to me. But - then - I'm thinking about it.


No your not, your stirring.

As unlikely as the example given was its still possible, as is a team loosing 10 - nil and still getting a point. It's a failed experiment that should be ditched.
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Re: Bonus Point : Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:01 pm  
You should NEVER be rewarded for losing. Typical of the way this country has gone. Schools have virtually eradicated the notion of competitiveness in exchange for the merits of "just taking part". What a load of crap. I loved football but hated everything else because I was crap at it all but I still appreciate the school pushing me and making me feel like a lame-ass up against the other kids of better standard. It did me no harm at all.

Rant over. Lose the bonus point.
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