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Re: date n time of cup game : Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:39 pm  
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Michael, wasn't Bramall Lane an option? Much better than Don Valley!

As usual it is just to make it difficult for us
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Re: date n time of cup game : Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:12 pm  
In reply to HXSparky, the decision as to where the match is played is very much Sheffield Eagles' decision as the home team. I could speculate as to the reasons why they chose Don Valley but it wouldn't be appropriate to do so on the Forum, sorry.
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Re: date n time of cup game : Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:44 pm  
As an Eagles fan said, it's a good tie for the winner but how dissapointing. A day out in Sheffield is now a rush down't motorway on a Friday tea-time. I just hope it is worth it!
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Re: date n time of cup game : Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:49 pm  
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I must say that this will ensure three things
- a complete lack of any atmosphere
- attendance struggling to get through 1000
- a financial nightmare for Fax if we win the player win bonuses will be bigger than any income and if we loose we will see income not cover expenses.

Absolute nonsense of a contest. Whole cup needs rethink.




Howard, I'm slightly bemused by the "winning bonuses" comment, wouldn't that be offset by qualifying for the quarter finals in either an increase on the prize money as opposed to this round or the bounty of a bigger tie in the quarters against let's say Huddersfield or Bradford ? How does a club budget for such outcomes ?


I totally disagree about all the fuss currently being made about the cup needing a re-think in various media. If we'd drawn Sheffield at home & opted to host them on a sunday would we have really been any better off in terms of enhancing the cup competition ? The fact that we got paired together was rather unfortunate but I still have that cup magic inside me that hopes Workington can topple Widnes & we're good enough to go through & pair up with Workington at the Shay. Would anyone be complaining about that scenario ? ( other than the groundsmen & FCHT fans )
Stuff what the cup means, let's sneak quietly into the semi finals, make some money & make everyone take notice of little Halifax RLFC.
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Re: date n time of cup game : Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:30 am  
Certainly the further you progress in the Cup the more money you make. I am not sure what the present prize fund is, I can't find a full list on a quick scan of Internet, but the winners fund is around £100k with half that for beaten finalist and half that for semi final losers, so you can see that the amounts are not large.

Notwithstanding that a good cup run can add cash to the bank but again it is not huge. If you assume a crowd of 5000 money via the gate would be £55/£60k. After expenses and shared amounts this leaves clubs £20/£25k. Very nice to have but not a panacea for ills. In most Championship clubs it would create one years breathing space.

The modern cup does produce minor shocks, and close results, but this is much less than in soccer and indeed historically "shocks" are much less frequent than we recall. Even Sheffield's win was based upon a combination of deliberately weakened opposition (underestimating them), a good draw, injuries and one good win.

I never complain about a nice cup draw but fans will only come out in bigger numbers to watch a Super League team at the shay not another Championship side that has benefitted from a lucky draw. Super League fans certainly do not fall over themselves to see their team play a championship club, home or away.

As the Cup is now the third most important contest (after leagues and play-offs) for super League clubs and economics are not wonderful I would like to see a restructure. But -and this involves clear foresight from the RFL - this has to come after we get confirmation, or otherwise, of any changes in the Super League structure. It can't be done in isolation.

What is more important as a Fax fan is that the present Board have ensured we don't need a cup run to survive and we can sit back and enjoy the activities on the field and no worry about the finances off of it.
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Re: date n time of cup game : Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:52 am  
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Michael, wasn't Bramall Lane an option? Much better than Don Valley!


Perhaps Sheffield United just don't want to stage the game.
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Re: date n time of cup game : Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:59 am  
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Perhaps Sheffield United just don't want to stage the game.


Then perhaps you should find a ground that can guarantee a day and kickoff time that is suitable for both teams and not just yourself.

Mind you we all know why Friday night has been chosen don't we, and it's nothing to do with the Sheffield Marathon.
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Re: date n time of cup game : Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:08 am  
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Then perhaps you should find a ground that can guarantee a day and kickoff time that is suitable for both teams and not just yourself.


:shock:

You think it's up to me to find one, then ? :CRAZY: :lol:
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Re: date n time of cup game : Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:10 am  
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You think it's up to me to find one, then ? :CRAZY: :lol:




You could have asked if the Shay was available :wink:
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Re: date n time of cup game : Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:18 am  
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:shock:

You think it's up to me to find one, then ? :CRAZY: :lol:


Quite obviously I meant the club, but hey, Bu::er the paying public, it's inconvenient for us so ideal for you.
Mind you that's your (Sheffield's) attitude every time.
Spectators? Who needs them, obviously not you (Sheffield)
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