Re: Application for Shay to be asset of community value : Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:11 am  

Can't believe they are so precious about something their club has rented for most of their history.

They can't help but reveal their bitterness to Tony Abbott either.

As an aside, the biggest share holder in the Ricoh Arena is - Coventry council!

Re: Application for Shay to be asset of community value : Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:13 am  

Im really not sure why the fans, be that Town or Fax fans, think they should have any say in what goes on in regards to the sale or running of the Shay.

Traditionally in Rugby and Football partnerships there is a weaker side and I can understand why most Town fans feel that as the weaker side their place at the Shay would be in jeopardy if it was sold to a private investor but I feel their worries are totally unfounded.

The worst case scenario would be the case of the ACV where you then have people involved who really have no idea what they are doing.

Re: Application for Shay to be asset of community value : Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:14 am  

Nuneaton towns ground. Which is privately owned(by a company currently in receivership) has an ACV . They are the only
Club playing there and get smaller crowds than we both do.

Please read up on a ACV people, it's a thing to put in motion to help safeguard the stadium in the future.

Re: Application for Shay to be asset of community value : Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:20 am  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

Im really not sure why the fans, be that Town or Fax fans, think they should have any say in what goes on in regards to the sale or running of the Shay.

Traditionally in Rugby and Football partnerships there is a weaker side and I can understand why most Town fans feel that as the weaker side their place at the Shay would be in jeopardy if it was sold to a private investor but I feel their worries are totally unfounded.

The worst case scenario would be the case of the ACV where you then have people involved who really have no idea what they are doing.

No, no, no

Say tony Abbott buys the shay. Its alright for a while. We all are happy. Should something happen to reactiv or TA(health, financially) and had to sell. It stops the first bidder who swans along that tony Abbott says yes to.

An ACV buys you time and information, to help formulate plans what ever they maybe. Now I know bubba has applied for the ACV on behalf of the htst, but despite most of your anise towards him. He is still a rugby fan and I know he would engage the rugby supporters trust and the clubs should something happen in the future.

Re: Application for Shay to be asset of community value : Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:28 am  

Although I do think an ACV is a good idea.

Anyone asked Tony Abbott his views on an ACV? Thought not

Re: Application for Shay to be asset of community value : Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:39 am  

Im still missing the point why we should have any say. The people in Halifax vote with their feet on match days and only a couple of thousand people seem interested, Im sure there are more important issues in Halifax.

I would imagine the council would be smart enough to insert clauses in to the contracts about the use of the stadium. Its really not rocket science.

Re: Application for Shay to be asset of community value : Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:55 am  

freddies wig wrote:

Although I do think an ACV is a good idea.

Anyone asked Tony Abbott his views on an ACV? Thought not

It was asked on twitter, he replied I need to talk to my legal team about it.

Re: Application for Shay to be asset of community value : Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:14 am  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

Im still missing the point why we should have any say. The people in Halifax vote with their feet on match days and only a couple of thousand people seem interested, Im sure there are more important issues in Halifax.

I would imagine the council would be smart enough to insert clauses in to the contracts about the use of the stadium. Its really not rocket science.

Exactly! Most of my mates are Town fans and believe me this IS about Town v Fax. They are just trying to put as many obstacles in the way as possible, delay things as much as possible and hope Tony gets fed up and walks away. The same old half hearted Halifax attitude that has seen The Shay underused and underdeveloped for years.

Re: Application for Shay to be asset of community value : Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:52 am  

freddies wig wrote:

Can't believe they are so precious about something their club has rented for most of their history.

They can't help but reveal their bitterness to Tony Abbott either.

As an aside, the biggest share holder in the Ricoh Arena is - Coventry council!

ALL their history.

Re: Application for Shay to be asset of community value : Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:55 am  

Hudd-Shay wrote:

Exactly! Most of my mates are Town fans and believe me this IS about Town v Fax. They are just trying to put as many obstacles in the way as possible, delay things as much as possible and hope Tony gets fed up and walks away. The same old half hearted Halifax attitude that has seen The Shay underused and underdeveloped for years.

But if TA walks away and now (thanks to Bubba and his ilk) the ratepayers of Calderdale (who really could not give a fig about the Shay) have now been alerted as to what a drain it is to the Councils coffers ,will be pressurising their Councilors to get shut . Someone said to me yesterday
" they are talking of shuting the Surestart nurseries saying they can`t afford and the Shay is loseing £300,000 a year .I can`t wait for the local elections ."
Plus now the Councilors have got a bee in their bonnets because the Town supporters have been informing them of the fact the council was not recieving the full value of the Shay pushing the price further up will make it even harder for the sale to go ahead ,so what happens then ? No more investment from the Council the place goes back to looking shabby and neglected like it did when the SST ran it .
When all said and done the Town supporters don`t mind a private individual runing their football club (even though he could sell it to anyone or even move them and play elsewhere ) but object to an individual owning the Shay . The Town owner is a man who won`t even invest in the very basic of a Club Shop but they don`t want TA to invest in the Shay , strange one that .
To me it`s just another plan B that will end in tears .