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Re: Sheffield V Donny Result : Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:11 am  
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It certainly seems to be a crazy set up with teams fighting for the top 2 this season so they can effectively be the bottom 2 in the middle 8 with little chance of competing with the 4 SL clubs(and maybe bottom 2 this season) when the split happens next season.

The RFL will change the ins and outs after a few seasons when they realize teams from the Championship have little chance of bridging the gap and Sky start to put pressure on them for that to happen to up the excitement.

Sums it up perfectly. It's a joke and an insulting one at that. Give the peasants a glimmer of hope but in reality almost no hope at all. :O
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Re: Sheffield V Donny Result : Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:28 am  
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It certainly seems to be a crazy set up with teams fighting for the top 2 this season so they can effectively be the bottom 2 in the middle 8 with little chance of competing with the 4 SL clubs(and maybe bottom 2 this season) when the split happens next season.

The RFL will change the ins and outs after a few seasons when they realize teams from the Championship have little chance of bridging the gap and Sky start to put pressure on them for that to happen to up the excitement.

I think everyone agrees that MONEY makes the world of Rugby go around :wink: and if you finish in the Top 2 this season your Reward is £500,000 and £450,000 respectively , compared to £200,000 if you finish 3rd and reducing drastically for the lower you finish , meaning it is essential to finish in the Top 2 to compete with the likes of London and Bradford who are both Favorites for the drop . :wink:

It has already been stated that if Leigh finish in the Top 2 this season most if not ALL of our Squad next season will be full time players , and we will have the cash to attract better standard of players , whereas finishing outside the Top 2 is virtually "Good Night Irene ",for the other clubs , I though you Faxers would know this , cmon Halifaxjohn educate your fellow Faxers .As im sure YOU know .
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Re: Sheffield V Donny Result : Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:32 am  
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How dare you Charlie, it's the fat lady, not the fat boy.
And anyway Charlie since I joined Faxfit when I turn sideways no one can see me.
Incidentally Faxfit do a boxfit, but then again your team are good at that already.
You don't play two halves it's 15 rounds.
:DANCE:

Well done John with your Faxfit :CLAP: :CLAP: good to see your healthy eating , myself I try to , im teetotal , and eat a lot of fruit , especially Pineapple , im starting to grow my own veg soon so I am trying .

As for the Boxfit , you may not know this but Leighs Jamie Acton was a Cage Fighter at one time . :shock: .
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Re: Sheffield V Donny Result : Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:17 am  
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It certainly seems to be a crazy set up with teams fighting for the top 2 this season so they can effectively be the bottom 2 in the middle 8 with little chance of competing with the 4 SL clubs(and maybe bottom 2 this season) when the split happens next season.

The RFL will change the ins and outs after a few seasons when they realize teams from the Championship have little chance of bridging the gap and Sky start to put pressure on them for that to happen to up the excitement.


Next year is about money and the squad you can afford, having a £300k more gift will help, to get into the top 4 and then the top 5 mid eight as 5th gives you a promotion play off
At Leigh we have already stated we will be full time 2015 and full cap if in top two, and have signed a number of the squad to FT contracts 2015/6 already
My vision of the next few years is that 16 or more if Toulouse are in, clubs will be operating in a FT environment by 2017. The 2015 mid eights is unlikely to see a second tier promoted unless we have implosion in top tier but you will have a sniff with four home games and a 4/5 play off game, the win is a full year FT and being involved in the play offs will harden you for 2016 when I do believe a club with the backer will come through
2018 onwards I see two tens with £1m funding in tier two and at long last a closing of the gap, the future is what you make of it, talk the system up and the fans will return
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Re: Sheffield V Donny Result : Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:39 am  
It's still an opportunity for Championship club chairmen or benefactors to take that extra step if they want SL. The gate has been opened at least. Before, a benefactor was put off by a licensing system which was bent.

If Abbott or any of the Fax directors want SL they know what they have to do. If Leigh think they can go full time and compete with the bottom 4 of SL then they know the risks (although given their recent history of financial stupidity this may be an unknown quantity).

The opportunity is there but so too are the lessons of financial meltdowns, given freely by an "iconic" club like Bradford Bulls.
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Re: Sheffield V Donny Result : Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:27 am  
Am I correct in thinking the bottom 4 SL teams next year will be operating on a 1.8m salary cap(subject to change) where as the top 4 Championship teams will be working on a maximum of 1m? Championship teams will likely need a miracle to get in the top 4 either that or make sure that you finish 5th and try and win the one off game to get in to SL.

That way you increase your salary cap to 1.8m and with the right structure could push forward.
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Re: Sheffield V Donny Result : Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:09 pm  
Keep saying it but you're right Rich.

Mr Abbott and the other directors were all over the SL talk when the SL door was firmly locked. Now it's slightly ajar it's all quiet on the western front. And who can blame them. They have done a fantastic job at Fax but they are businessmen and realise how much it will cost them to take us to the next level. Best to downplay expectations. Maybe TA realised owning The Shay would be a way of generating extra income to help, well never know now.

I only hope they stick around and slowly build the club, keep it working within its and their means and see where it leads.

I also hope Leigh have the resources, too many times they've gone pop before the end of the season whilst asking everyone to "beleighve". They're talking the talk, only hope they have the pockets to take the strain.

The new system ensures the status quo remains with the perennial RFL favourites, the Bulls and the Broncos being given as much of a leg up as possible!
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Re: Sheffield V Donny Result : Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:30 pm  
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Its league position


If that's so, then what would be the point of a play offseries and a grand final?
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Re: Sheffield V Donny Result : Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:40 pm  
Personally I would not want us to be in the Top 2. 500,000 is good but is it enough? And the odds are well stacked against the 2 Championship clubs. And I remain to be convinced if this system will last longer than a couple of seasons and I think the top 2 will not really benefit that much as I see this all as short term thinking from clubs and the RFL without really addressing any of the problems in the Pro game. I would not be surprised to see Sheffield and Fax not chasing a top 2 place but more a Grand Final win
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Re: Sheffield V Donny Result : Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:20 pm  
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Personally I would not want us to be in the Top 2. 500,000 is good but is it enough? And the odds are well stacked against the 2 Championship clubs. And I remain to be convinced if this system will last longer than a couple of seasons and I think the top 2 will not really benefit that much as I see this all as short term thinking from clubs and the RFL without really addressing any of the problems in the Pro game. I would not be surprised to see Sheffield and Fax not chasing a top 2 place but more a Grand Final win

That's a relief then , I don't think you have grasped the plan for the Future , next season will see the bottom 2 in SL relegated probably London and Bradford they will be given parachute payments along with the payments the Top 2 in our League will get , making the 4 teams Full time with a big advantage over the rest , then it will be "Hey Boys Hey ",for the Top 4 the season after for the Middle 8 places ,meaning this years 3rd downwards would need Dynamo , David Blane , and Divine intervention to get them to challenge the others above then , not to mention attracting better players .

But as you don't want to finish in the Top 2 it wont trouble you :wink: .
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