Re: To put the season in context. : Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:48 pm  

After attending the Fax v Leigh earlier in the season , I was very impressed with your Hospitality and the way your Sponsers are treated , along with the Facilities you have , they are definatly a match for what Leigh have on offer .Your ground and Fans are for me Superior to Fevs , maybe Karl has got some things wrong this season , but you are still in the mix , maybe not as favorites , I think the season may be a disappointment to you , but its not all been bad , personally I think if you show maybe around 6 of your current squad the door at the end of the season and recruit well you could still challenge for the Top 4 next year , obviously it wont be easy , but it wont be easy for anybody .

As you Faxers know I like Fax and want to see you challenging Fev , hopefully we will meet in this years GF , and stage a great game at Leeds , and then make plans for next season .Keep the Fax faith .

Re: To put the season in context. : Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:09 pm  

charlie caroli wrote:

After attending the Fax v Leigh earlier in the season , I was very impressed with your Hospitality and the way your Sponsers are treated , along with the Facilities you have , they are definatly a match for what Leigh have on offer .Your ground and Fans are for me Superior to Fevs , maybe Karl has got some things wrong this season , but you are still in the mix , maybe not as favorites , I think the season may be a disappointment to you , but its not all been bad , personally I think if you show maybe around 6 of your current squad the door at the end of the season and recruit well you could still challenge for the Top 4 next year , obviously it wont be easy , but it wont be easy for anybody .

As you Faxers know I like Fax and want to see you challenging Fev , hopefully we will meet in this years GF , and stage a great game at Leeds , and then make plans for next season .Keep the Fax faith .

Charlie, what's wrong with a Fax v Fev Final? Leigh still have to get the monkey of their back and win a couple of play-off games to get to the final

Seriously I see where you are coming from, in that you can argue that Fax haven't had a bad year, but I can feel the frustration coming out of the Fax camp too. I don't believe KH is a bad coach, but I also don't think he is a great coach. He did an okay at Salford on limited resources and a greadt job at Batley on imited resources (resources relative to the teams around him). And maybe this is the issue at Fax he came to a team that had relatively more resources (3 years ago) than the other teams around him, but he has been unable to take the team forward from that position, where as DP & PR have done that at Fev and Leigh. If you think that Fax are underdogs next year than maybe he is the man to take Fax forwards, but it is difficult to see how that will happen if he has lost the support of the fans.

For me I hope that Fax can turn the corner either with or without KH and that Fev can also steady the ship so that next year all three clubs (Leigh/FaxFev) are compeating and winning that middle 8. How great it would be if we could get the 1st 3 places in the middle 8 and see the likes of Bradford/London/Widnes/Wakefield, etc. having to play in a 4v5 game to be the last team to make up SL in 2016.

Roll on next year (not that this one is done yet).

Re: To put the season in context. : Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:30 pm  

mr t hall wrote:

Agree with all this.My biggest fear for next season is not who the coach is but why everything at boardroom level has appeared to have stopped.

True - Rhino can only work with the money and resources made available to him by the board - if it wasnt for people like Roger Harvey investing in Fax dont know where we would be - My concern is Fax could get left behind in 2015.

Re: To put the season in context. : Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:40 pm  

To put it in context not a bad season really. We dont appear to be spending what Leigh, Fev and Harrison even stated Dewsbury as spending more. Let too many quality players go Beswick, Penky, Black, Barlow to name a few. I would like KH to change the style and be more fluent in attack. This 5 drives and a kick will not attract the fans.
Need more quality in outside backs for next season IMO. Ben Kaye a disappointment for me this season.

Re: To put the season in context. : Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:25 pm  

FevGrinder wrote:

Charlie, what's wrong with a Fax v Fev Final? Leigh still have to get the monkey of their back and win a couple of play-off games to get to the final

Seriously I see where you are coming from, in that you can argue that Fax haven't had a bad year, but I can feel the frustration coming out of the Fax camp too. I don't believe KH is a bad coach, but I also don't think he is a great coach. He did an okay at Salford on limited resources and a greadt job at Batley on imited resources (resources relative to the teams around him). And maybe this is the issue at Fax he came to a team that had relatively more resources (3 years ago) than the other teams around him, but he has been unable to take the team forward from that position, where as DP & PR have done that at Fev and Leigh. If you think that Fax are underdogs next year than maybe he is the man to take Fax forwards, but it is difficult to see how that will happen if he has lost the support of the fans.

For me I hope that Fax can turn the corner either with or without KH and that Fev can also steady the ship so that next year all three clubs (Leigh/FaxFev) are compeating and winning that middle 8. How great it would be if we could get the 1st 3 places in the middle 8 and see the likes of Bradford/London/Widnes/Wakefield, etc. having to play in a 4v5 game to be the last team to make up SL in 2016.

Roll on next year (not that this one is done yet).

Dave we at Leigh have a dismal record in the Play-offs but I think we will change that this year , I think Stanley Unwin must be leading the Fax team talks this year , is it possible to have a Fax v Fev GF ?WHERE would it be played Fantasy Island ?

Re: To put the season in context. : Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:56 pm  

chazzerboy wrote:

To put it in context not a bad season really. We dont appear to be spending what Leigh, Fev and Harrison even stated Dewsbury as spending more. Let too many quality players go Beswick, Penky, Black, Barlow to name a few. I would like KH to change the style and be more fluent in attack. This 5 drives and a kick will not attract the fans.
Need more quality in outside backs for next season IMO. Ben Kaye a disappointment for me this season.

I completely agree regarding Ben Kaye his speed from hooker is woeful at times and I wouldn't personally play him I would much rather have holden there instead IMO

Re: To put the season in context. : Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:52 pm  

To put the season into context.... We've been poor, again..

The fans know it, The Board should know it, Karl should know it, The Players ought to know it..

The last hope for us now is to get to the Final and generate something positive. Can we do it ? Yes I suppose we can.
Will we do it? hmmm there's no indicator to suggest were going to do a Sheffield..

Re: To put the season in context. : Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:27 pm  

Well done Mr T Hall on probably the most balanced post over the last two days. I know we are all disappointed but the level of vitriol posted on here over the last couple of days has beggared belief - mainly I note from people who never post after the winning games. Anyone would think we were facing relegation not 2 points off second place. Given our budget was the 4th largest this year, if we achieve 3rd we have batted above our weight. And to those of you making a stand and staying away from games - I am actually not interested. Everyone is entitled to do as they like, but I will continue to support my team like many others through thick and thin. The season has not finished and we need to get over this an get behind the lads

Re: To put the season in context. : Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:14 pm  

Take away the bonus point and we are 5/6th and only just recently escaped the relegation fight.

B*ll*cks, take away everybody's bonus points, we're still 3rd. Funny how people spin things to fit their argument. We are 3rd in a very competitive league, yes we've played some pretty gruesome rugby this year, however, why would you sack a coach who has got the team into a fairly competitive position with what is reputed to be a much reduced budget.

Re: To put the season in context. : Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:28 pm  

Can't really compare until you lay out all finances, sources of income and benefactor contributions of all clubs. Relatively speaking we may be punching well above our weight with the finances available. Fev may have been expecting to walk the division with theirs and so may be disappointed that Leigh have stolen their thunder. Leigh may be sinking benefactor cash over the next three years in the hope of self sustaining returns.

I don't think Fax have the cash to splash in order to push into that top four next year.