Re: Sean Penkywicz : Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:30 am  

griff1998 wrote:

It's very difficult as some of these drugs are perfectly legal, over the counter medicines. It's a hugely technical area and the player is inevitably going to have to rely on advice. This stuff he's been accused of taking isn't necessarily injected, it can be absorbed transcutaneously.

We'll probably never know the real story. But, either way, the drug testing procedure seems to have been "unusual".

Agreed Griff.

Hopefully, whatever Penky did, is not part of a bigger story - and by that, I mean at ALL clubs.

Re: Sean Penkywicz : Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:53 am  

Given that this is people's livelihoods we are talking about, I am sure none of us rejoice about the news however there have been indications that this is a more comprehensive and systematic problem with Leigh (allegedly).

I was told by some who interacted closely with the Leigh players at a (physically niggly) game during the standard completion that the Leigh players just didn't seem normal, were particularly aggressive and that person even went so far as to describe them as "evil".

Make of that what you will - more to follow?

Re: Sean Penkywicz : Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:05 pm  

Call me a cynic but Leigh's performance on the whole seems to have gone a little bit south as the season got past the half way mark, their fitness is in question and there certainly seems to have been a drop off in the level 'violence' in their games. I cant be the only person who has noted that.

Re: Sean Penkywicz : Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:11 pm  

This issue is certainly raising a few eyebrows

Re: Sean Penkywicz : Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:03 pm  

Penky was a great player but that has all been for nothing now. In the words of Cpt Mainwaring "Stupid Boy."And to do it twice.
To comment on what Encouraged has posted I have heard rumors too that another ex-Fax Prop now at Leigh has refused to give samples and the RFL have visited at his home and due to some aggression the police where called. Just rumors but quite a big one.

Re: Sean Penkywicz : Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:26 pm  

Faxlore wrote:

Penky was a great player but that has all been for nothing now. In the words of Cpt Mainwaring "Stupid Boy."And to do it twice.
To comment on what Encouraged has posted I have heard rumors too that another ex-Fax Prop now at Leigh has refused to give samples and the RFL have visited at his home and due to some aggression the police where called. Just rumors but quite a big one.

That was in the press last week.
The player involved has strenuously denied the use of drugs.
The police were called due to a misunderstanding and the player offered a sample whilst the police were in attendance.
Whether one was given is not disclosed.
I for one will give the player the benefit of doubt until something is proven.
Hopefully others will too.

Re: Sean Penkywicz : Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:40 pm  

halifaxjohn wrote:

Faxlore wrote:

Penky was a great player but that has all been for nothing now. In the words of Cpt Mainwaring "Stupid Boy."And to do it twice.
To comment on what Encouraged has posted I have heard rumors too that another ex-Fax Prop now at Leigh has refused to give samples and the RFL have visited at his home and due to some aggression the police where called. Just rumors but quite a big one.

That was in the press last week.
The player involved has strenuously denied the use of drugs.
The police were called due to a misunderstanding and the player offered a sample whilst the police were in attendance.
Whether one was given is not disclosed.
I for one will give the player the benefit of doubt until something is proven.
Hopefully others will too.

The video that's doing the rounds doesn't help his cause.

Re: Sean Penkywicz : Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:10 pm  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

Something got flagged somewhere along the line for a negative test to be re tested for something else. Its more likely to be a case of athletes been one step ahead of the testers. Lets wait and see though when the full story comes out.

I find it unusual that they keep the samples they have tested that have proved negative. I would have thought that once a negative result has been found that both sample A and sample B would be destroyed. Unless there is a reason that has not been given to keep these samples I cannot see why they are kept.

Is there anywhere where we can read up on the drug-testing procedure and rules?

Re: Sean Penkywicz : Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:28 pm  

TheEnforcer273 wrote:

The video that's doing the rounds doesn't help his cause.

Show us the link for the video.

Re: Sean Penkywicz : Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:44 pm  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

Call me a cynic but Leigh's performance on the whole seems to have gone a little bit south as the season got past the half way mark, their fitness is in question and there certainly seems to have been a drop off in the level 'violence' in their games. I cant be the only person who has noted that.

Perhaps the 'drop off' in violence was as a result of not playing 'Fax or 'Fev in their final games?

I would repeat what I've posted elsewhere, that the level of aggression employed by Leigh these past two seasons, has been no greater than we encountered during the previous four seasons' of Fev dominance. We got some right royal pastings, both physically and scorewise during our regular 3-4 games per season against them!

Our games against 'Fax have been more puzzling. We used to have some cracking, high scoring games with you. I can only assume that there have been so many players swapping sides that familiarity truly has bred contempt.

We now have, rightly or wrongly, a reputation amongst the 'knowing' media pundits, (even in the HKR and Salford games) of being indisciplined. Yet the penalty counts in both those games, have been in our favour, with the SL teams getting more players 'referred'. (e.g 4 Salford players and 1 Leigh)