Re: Poor show : Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:06 pm  

Nozzy wrote:

Think you will have to reassess that once you see the highlights Hudd Shay. Just watched all of our tries repeatedly and none of them are forward. The camera never lies

I wasn't sure about the calls for forward at the time, I thought there was a clear obstruction on your second try though. Might be wrong will have to wait for the highlights.

Re: Poor show : Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:22 am  

Nozzy wrote:

Think you will have to reassess that once you see the highlights Hudd Shay. Just watched all of our tries repeatedly and none of them are forward. The camera never lies

Ah, but it does though! That's why the video ref can't rule on forward passes.

Re: Poor show : Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:48 am  

Taverner wrote:

I wasn't sure about the calls for forward at the time, I thought there was a clear obstruction on your second try though. Might be wrong will have to wait for the highlights.

My thoughts too.

We have had 3 tries ruled out this season for obstruction 2 of them were crucial ones against Batley and Sheffield that were both called incorrectly where as the early one against London was correct. They say these things even themselves up but if its another that has been called wrongly then we are doing it pretty tough.

As for the game again in the first half we need to post more points for our dominance but our attack was off once again. The 2nd half seemed to hinge on a few crucial things, we charged a ball down in mid field and they came up with it which is always a rule I think is daft because the attack get rewarded for a poor kick and the defence get punished as we did. Another was Ben Heaton stealing the ball and then in the play that followed looking around to see what Silverwood's decision was and having the ball knocked out of his grasp. He really should have wrapped that ball up. Another score at 12-4 would have killed the game but even at that we should be able to close a game out.

Re: Poor show : Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:34 am  

I was a bit surprised how our forwards got on top when yours seemed to tire. We do have a stronger pack this season, but they are older, and we had to put in a very long tackling stint in the first half. Last season, we never bossed your forwards in any of the three meetings.

Given the quality on show, it was probably a disappointing game, with a shed load of errors. From our point of view, that is probably understanding, given that we still had six good backs unavailable (McNally, Tonga, Worthington, Armstrong, Chase and Brierley) and tried our SEVENTH half back pairing in six games.

I'm sure that one good win will turn things round for you - hopefully starting with Bradford!

Finally, it was great to see Miles Greenwood back on the pitch, after his horrendous injury. You wouldn't have believed how long he'd been out, judging by his excellent performance.

Re: Poor show : Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:56 am  

We played some great stuff (again), but were undone by silly mistakes and an inability to close a game out (again).

It's becoming far too repetative to be put down to just one of those things. Not sure if it's players or coaching staff (or both) to blame, but we seem to be incapable of defending a lead. Teams are realising that as long as they keep within touching distance by the last quarter then they'll have every chance to nick the win. To nil a team in the first 40 then ship 26 points to them in the second 40 suggests something more than just bad luck.

We benefitted from being under the radar last season, this time out there's a greater expectancy from fans and opponents and we don't seem to be dealing with it very well. Marshall needs to get a hold of it while the others are still dropping points around us or we'll be fighting it out with Dewsbury to finish 7th. We all love the fact that he tries to play a better brand of rugby that Karl did, but we need that ability to shut a team down in the last quarter of a match.

Re: Poor show : Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:07 pm  

Yea Mr Binns I agree, we need to get a bit savvier, we could have had 6 more points by now if we were.
I was wondering should we have gone for the 2 points early in the 2nd half, it would have put us 10 points clear, I know it's not 2 scores but it does give you a chance later on if you are 2 behind, just a thought.

Re: Poor show : Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:22 pm  

Maybe be worth a thought.

It's easy to say we need to shut a team down but not so easy to do, the opposition aren't just going to throw the towel in.

Leigh were behind going into the last quarter and as every team would they lifted their game as a team and with well timed substitutions.

You have to give credit for good game management by their coach, bringing Moi Moi and Higham back on when they did coupled with a massive effort from the likes of Emmett carried them forward and we couldn't hold out try as we might, they are a full time team and it showed in those last 20 minutes.

In fact some of their players have been full time for years and it makes a massive difference, it wasn't so much that they out skilled us or out played us, they were just stronger at the end of the game.

The daft penalties are another issue which is completely in our control, no team will ever be squeaky clean but there is big room for improvement in that department.

Re: Poor show : Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:57 am  

Dear Harryfax. Wasnt manning sinbinned yet again or did you only spot Gaz Hocks binning. Try watching the blokes skills instead of being so biased against him who knows you may even grow to enjoy watching him play.

Re: Poor show : Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:10 am  

Hock and Manning are both good players but they also have an edge to them, that's probably why they play so well, we all just have to accept thIs and hope they keep a lid on it more often than not.

Re: Poor show : Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:59 pm  

leythersteve obviously didn't see the original cheap shot hock threw that caused the fracas. hear no evil see no evil leathers lol