Re: Toronto at home to Fax in London. : Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:47 am  

griff1998 wrote:

Not all. Ours was delayed transmission.

It clashed with the GAA - Dublin v Kerry at Croker.

That says it all Griff, I think they were showing Live Dominoes as well.

Re: Toronto at home to Fax in London. : Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:16 pm  

Very well beaten by a very fit strong side. I think they'll give Warrington a decent game in the cup.

Some shocking refereeing decisions and errors in our own half didn't help. Though Toronto would have still won with ease. Any full-time team playing their A/A- game will beat a Part-time side.

Re: Toronto at home to Fax in London. : Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:22 pm  

Full time team costing well over 1 million, most teams don't stand a snowball in hell's chance of beating them. Sooner we get rid of them to Super league the better then the RFL will be happy.

Re: Toronto at home to Fax in London. : Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:26 pm  

Always going to be hard for us to compete against a full time side at the top of the salary cap like Toronto Checkbooks.
That said, the amount of errors and basic skill levels were shambolic for most of the game with a completion rate at an all time low.
At times it looked like the cities pro’s had asked the locals from the pub to come out and have a run around at dinner time.

Re: Toronto at home to Fax in London. : Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:28 pm  

Doesn't sound a good evening. Have a safe journey home.

Re: Toronto at home to Fax in London. : Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:24 am  

faxcar wrote:

Always going to be hard for us to compete against a full time side at the top of the salary cap like Toronto Checkbooks.
That said, the amount of errors and basic skill levels were shambolic for most of the game with a completion rate at an all time low.
At times it looked like the cities pro’s had asked the locals from the pub to come out and have a run around at dinner time.

So much this.

We didn't lose the game because Toronto spent more money than us, we lost the game because we made basic errors in the first 15 minutes that meant the game was already out of our reach. Something must be wrong with our prep as this is the 2nd time we have travelled long distance this season and in both games we were beat in the 1st 15 minutes because we still looked like we were in the changing rooms.

As faxcar says the first half was shambolic and no better than what is served up at amateur level most weekends. The second half, similar to Toulouse, we showed that we can compete but it also shows you can't spend the first 20 minutes of a game tackling and expect to get anything out of it.

Its not a game that will shape our season as I wouldnt expect many teams to beat Toronto from this point. Those games will come at the Bash and when we play Fev and Toulouse again at home. We are still very much in a decent position now we have got Toronto out of the way along with 2 tough away trips to Fev and Tolouse and if we win the reverse fixtures we should be there or there abouts. Leigh and London you really can't see us getting anything out which makes it vital we do not slip up against so called weaker teams.

Re: Toronto at home to Fax in London. : Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:34 am  

charlie caroli wrote:

That says it all Griff, I think they were showing Live Dominoes as well.

Au contraire, Charlie. I'm a big fan of GAA.

You need to educate yourself.

Re: Toronto at home to Fax in London. : Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:53 am  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

So much this.

We didn't lose the game because Toronto spent more money than us, we lost the game because we made basic errors in the first 15 minutes that meant the game was already out of our reach. Something must be wrong with our prep as this is the 2nd time we have travelled long distance this season and in both games we were beat in the 1st 15 minutes because we still looked like we were in the changing rooms.

As faxcar says the first half was shambolic and no better than what is served up at amateur level most weekends. The second half, similar to Toulouse, we showed that we can compete but it also shows you can't spend the first 20 minutes of a game tackling and expect to get anything out of it.

Its not a game that will shape our season as I wouldnt expect many teams to beat Toronto from this point. Those games will come at the Bash and when we play Fev and Toulouse again at home. We are still very much in a decent position now we have got Toronto out of the way along with 2 tough away trips to Fev and Tolouse and if we win the reverse fixtures we should be there or there abouts. Leigh and London you really can't see us getting anything out which makes it vital we do not slip up against so called weaker teams.

Preparation may have been better if our coach had concentrated on his own team and not spent Friday night in Castleford.

Re: Toronto at home to Fax in London. : Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:06 am  

Beaten by a better side on the day. Was definitely a lesson in how to play rugby at pace and tackle even harder. We just seem to struggle against the top sides and don't have the pace or flair to trouble these top teams I'm afraid.
It's where we are at and we just have to get back on the horse next week against Sheffield.
Charlie, my old friend, I have put the plans to invade Poland on ice for the moment!!!!
Hope the injuries to Tyrer/Murrell and Grix are not too serious.

Re: Toronto at home to Fax in London. : Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:18 am  

Hudd-Shay wrote:

Preparation may have been better if our coach had concentrated on his own team and not spent Friday night in Castleford.

You may or may not like what I say Hudds but to be honest RM at Cas on Friday night had nothing to do with the prep for the game that was taking place less than 24 hours later, if it hadn't been done earlier in the week then it was too late by then and using that just to have another pop at DR won't improve our away performances in the Capitol imho.

More importantly where were the lads between 6.30 and 8.10 on Saturday night, because they weren't at the game for large periods especially early on, that's for sure.

As GFB says it's not the first time when going to London, we perform so poorly that not only do we not win, we don't even get close to have a chance of winning and that's not a reflection of Fax overall as a team.

Something must be wrong in the build up, it's not a critical dig, it's the truth and needs to be looked at if at all possible with the constraints of having a part time squad who have varied secular work commitments etc.