Re: Big mistake : Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:17 pm  

You know what it is people like this guy who make me think that whilst I am hugely proud of my town it is held back by negative people who cannot see anything good in change and want to have their two penneth worth in everything cos they are always right in their eyes when they are actually often wrong. Small minded small town people.
AMBITION is not a word I associate with Halifax sadly, yet things do happen despite these dinosaurs and when it does they all go 'how good is that', it will be the same when the new library is built and opened, people will love it and wonder why all the fuss?
I hope I can come on here in a couple of years time and say the same about the Shay.

Re: Big mistake : Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:21 pm  

You are wrong. There is an element of cognitive dissonance in both sets of fans beliefs I would admit, bur I would honestly like both clubs to perform (admittedly more so the football) but there is too much open-endedness in this guys plans for me.

Please note that I have not once abused Mr Abbott.

Re: Big mistake : Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:24 pm  

But you don't trust him because you think he runs a payday loan company? You don't even know the man. You can't disguise your Town Clown suit pal. Jog on.

Re: Big mistake : Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:33 am  

Knock On Nigel wrote:

You are wrong. There is an element of cognitive dissonance in both sets of fans beliefs I would admit, bur I would honestly like both clubs to perform (admittedly more so the football) but there is too much open-endedness in this guys plans for me.

Please note that I have not once abused Mr Abbott.

Well, that's me out of the argument

Re: Big mistake : Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:33 am  

No one is forced to use a pay day loan company, there's other options availible such as credit unions, but it's a booming market and whilst Wonga take all the bad press, plenty more are just getting on with it.

Entrepreneurial type people will dip into these boom markets when they appear, then close down when the market changes. It isn't hard to set up your own personal injury or PPI claims company, as you're effectively a front end face selling a legal firms product and earn your money from referral fees. I don't know about the payday loan market but that could work in a similar way.

Everything that comes from the town fans is an attack on Tony Abbott, allegations about his finances, businesses, charity, ect. Asking why he's wearing a poppy? It's a catalogue of hate which partly will boil down to jealousy that someone is doing ok for themselves.

As someone said, the lack of ambition in Halifax is astounding, so many people never wanting to do better. Opens the door for someone who does to come in and make money.

Will these town fans still attend a Tony Abbott owned Shay?

Re: Big mistake : Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:51 am  

Brew wrote:

No one is forced to use a pay day loan company, there's other options availible such as credit unions, but it's a booming market and whilst Wonga take all the bad press, plenty more are just getting on with it.

Entrepreneurial type people will dip into these boom markets when they appear, then close down when the market changes. It isn't hard to set up your own personal injury or PPI claims company, as you're effectively a front end face selling a legal firms product and earn your money from referral fees. I don't know about the payday loan market but that could work in a similar way.

Everything that comes from the town fans is an attack on Tony Abbott, allegations about his finances, businesses, charity, ect. Asking why he's wearing a poppy? It's a catalogue of hate which partly will boil down to jealousy that someone is doing ok for themselves.

As someone said, the lack of ambition in Halifax is astounding, so many people never wanting to do better. Opens the door for someone who does to come in and make money.

Will these town fans still attend a Tony Abbott owned Shay?

I went into the "Halifax" yesterday and the cashier was wearing a poppy, disgraceful, how can you trust a bank oficial that wears a poppy?
I withdrew all my money and will never set foot in that organisation again!
Forgive my grumpy mood all that money made my mattress very uncomfortable.

Re: Big mistake : Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:08 am  

The simple fact is the Shay is costing the Council several hundreds of thousands of pounds a year which they cannot afford to keep spending.

The costs associated with the Shay will only increase.

That's why they have considered selling the place which would make financial sense, the motive has nothing to do with any private individual.

If they go ahead then the only question remaining is who they sell it to and what constraints if any are put on it's future use.

If they cap the use of it then the people interested in buying would be less and so would the value.

If they do not cap it's future use then there may be more buyers with possibly more value but the chance of it remaining a sports stadium would be vastly reduced and left to chance.


Also this value thing is missleading as neither sports club would receive any of the money or benefit it would go to the Council.
The higher the money involved in the purchase will eat into what will be available to improving the place if it was someone like TA that bought it.

It they decide to sell it will come down to options and at the moment the TA option is the only one on the table that offers anything that will keep both clubs in place and the other local and commercial benefits as well.

If they decide to sell and you think that an unknown outsider would be a better option well as the saying goes be carefull for what you wish for.
How would we be placed and feel then.

Re: Big mistake : Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:09 am  

A simple question. Not asking to be abused as I primarily am a town fan, and your opinions of us aren't very high. But do any of You regular posters on this forum have ANY concerns with a tony Abbott owned shay? If you do have any concerns what are they?

Re: Big mistake : Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:15 am  

I'd rather the council keep hold of it and improve its running efficiency before holding out to a highly scrutinized public bidder. The fact that TA has not revealed how much money has been offered (rumoured to be way way below it's net realisable value) combined with him dealing in a quick buck industry has helped fuel fear amongst football fans, and understandably so.

Re: Big mistake : Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:20 am  

Shaymen Down Under wrote:

A simple question. Not asking to be abused as I primarily am a town fan, and your opinions of us aren't very high. But do any of You regular posters on this forum have ANY concerns with a tony Abbott owned shay? If you do have any concerns what are they?

I have no concerns.
I believe it will benefit, Town, Fax and the community.
I believe Mr Abbott is in for the long haul.
I believe it is the only option as,
I believe there is more danger to our Stadium if it stays in Council hands because
I believe that sooner rather than later they will pull the plug.
I do not believe that pigs can fly.