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Re: Hull KR Partnership : Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:39 am  
I can't take anyone's opinion seriously when they say this is the lowest point in the club's 140 year history. That is just an idiotic and overdramatic statement which devalues anything else they write on the subject.
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Re: Hull KR Partnership : Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:18 am  
This is a difficult one . I don't like the idea of dual reg when it is used by one team to get their players match fit or solely to give them some game time . But I do think there could be a place for it . How many times last season did Fax have second rows playing in the centres ? Casey , Robinson , Manning all had run outs there . There's only so many players we have in our squad ; if we get injuries , suspensions etc and we have the chance to bring in a recognised , natural centre if Hull KR have one available then I think it benefits both teams . I know there are concerns ; what happens if both teams end up playing one another in the second stage of the comp and there are other things I worry about . However lets see how it goes before condemning it .
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Re: Hull KR Partnership : Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:45 am  
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This is a difficult one . I don't like the idea of dual reg when it is used by one team to get their players match fit or solely to give them some game time . But I do think there could be a place for it . How many times last season did Fax have second rows playing in the centres ? Casey , Robinson , Manning all had run outs there . There's only so many players we have in our squad ; if we get injuries , suspensions etc and we have the chance to bring in a recognised , natural centre if Hull KR have one available then I think it benefits both teams . I know there are concerns ; what happens if both teams end up playing one another in the second stage of the comp and there are other things I worry about . However lets see how it goes before condemning it .

X 2. This basically how I have been thinking and posting.

Lets see what happens, if it turns out we are doing any of.

"the idea of dual reg when it is used by one team to get their players match fit or solely to give them some game time"

or things like this then the club surely knows the vast majority of Fax supporters will not stand for it.
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Re: Hull KR Partnership : Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:33 am  
You must do what you must do, its the this will be different rhetoric that amused me. Your owner will have done it for all the right reasons, but get ready for an overdose of banter second game - you gave us plenty

Have a great Christmas and stay with your team in its hour of need
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Re: Hull KR Partnership : Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:55 am  
Cant say I am happy about it and for me the Club is panicing a bit and thinking short term- much like the rest of the game! It Comes across to me that the Club has lost a lot of Money under the era of Karl Harrison as Coach and is looking to make savings on and off the field with the partnership. To be honest, I am not bothered about finishing in the top 4 as we are not ready to Play at that Level on or off the field. As Long as we give 100% Play decent Rugby and are competitive that for me is realistic. I dont see the Need to link with HKR to get DR Players as for us the top 4 is unrealistic in my opinion.

I am not sure why Jason Netherton Needs to come to Halifax " to increase Levels of participation in the area". For me, Hull KR know that the Halifax area with Clubs like Siddal and King Cross etc, produce Quality Youngsters and are using Fax and this partnership as a way to get them to sign for them and have a stronger academý they have had. I thought we had Luke Ambler and Frank Watene doing this, who for me both do a great Job. Why does Netherton Need to stick his nose in? A Joint scouting Network is defo more in HKRs intersts more than ours for me.

The board have to make tough decisions and some are unpopular like this one. We the fans may feel the Club has sold out, but maybe the board feel they cant Keep putting in as they have done and are looking at alternatives. For me I have no idea where the game is going and what the System and the game will be like in 5 years. I cant see how a Club like us can plan and go Forward with the way things are in the game. I get the Feeling the Club are fearing getting left behind but I cant see Fev or Leigh getting anywhere in the next 5 years neither despite this alleged better System.

The Club has shot itself in the foot so much in the past 12 months from Harrisons awful rugby to "Tony Abbott buying the Shay Fiasco". The Club looked like it had finally listened to the fans with the Richard Marshall and the excellent Shirts. But this decision is once again is one that goes against what the fans want and could see again more drift away slowly. The excellent work by fans raising Money for the u20s for me Comes again as a decision that will upset People ith the end of the U20s. Our Youngsters will just be HKR rejects and sent to Gateshead.

Maybe the board could explain in more Detail exactly why it felt it needed to go don this road because to me it Comes across as the Club have given up and cutting costs. DO we really Need to have this Partnership as for me HKR will get far more out of it than us
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Re: Hull KR Partnership : Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:11 am  
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Cant say I am happy about it and for me the Club is panicing a bit and thinking short term- much like the rest of the game! It Comes across to me that the Club has lost a lot of Money under the era of Karl Harrison as Coach and is looking to make savings on and off the field with the partnership. To be honest, I am not bothered about finishing in the top 4 as we are not ready to Play at that Level on or off the field. As Long as we give 100% Play decent Rugby and are competitive that for me is realistic. I dont see the Need to link with HKR to get DR Players as for us the top 4 is unrealistic in my opinion.

I am not sure why Jason Netherton Needs to come to Halifax " to increase Levels of participation in the area". For me, Hull KR know that the Halifax area with Clubs like Siddal and King Cross etc, produce Quality Youngsters and are using Fax and this partnership as a way to get them to sign for them and have a stronger academý they have had. I thought we had Luke Ambler and Frank Watene doing this, who for me both do a great Job. Why does Netherton Need to stick his nose in? A Joint scouting Network is defo more in HKRs intersts more than ours for me.

The board have to make tough decisions and some are unpopular like this one. We the fans may feel the Club has sold out, but maybe the board feel they cant Keep putting in as they have done and are looking at alternatives. For me I have no idea where the game is going and what the System and the game will be like in 5 years. I cant see how a Club like us can plan and go Forward with the way things are in the game. I get the Feeling the Club are fearing getting left behind but I cant see Fev or Leigh getting anywhere in the next 5 years neither despite this alleged better System.

The Club has shot itself in the foot so much in the past 12 months from Harrisons awful rugby to "Tony Abbott buying the Shay Fiasco". The Club looked like it had finally listened to the fans with the Richard Marshall and the excellent Shirts. But this decision is once again is one that goes against what the fans want and could see again more drift away slowly. The excellent work by fans raising Money for the u20s for me Comes again as a decision that will upset People ith the end of the U20s. Our Youngsters will just be HKR rejects and sent to Gateshead.

Maybe the board could explain in more Detail exactly why it felt it needed to go don this road because to me it Comes across as the Club have given up and cutting costs. DO we really Need to have this Partnership as for me HKR will get far more out of it than us
Spot on. There are so many negatives and pitfalls to this farce even if you accept the principles of DR.which obviously I don't.
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Re: Hull KR Partnership : Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:20 am  
Part quote. "Maybe the board could explain in more Detail exactly why it felt it needed to go down this road."

That's exactly what they should do, you can't have the club saying they want to get closer to the fans and then make this announcement which is high on the controversial list without speaking to the fan base about how it will be implemented.

Lets see if there is more information to come from the club about this sooner rather than later.
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Re: Hull KR Partnership : Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:01 pm  
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Cant say I am happy about it and for me the Club is panicing a bit and thinking short term- much like the rest of the game! It Comes across to me that the Club has lost a lot of Money under the era of Karl Harrison as Coach and is looking to make savings on and off the field with the partnership. To be honest, I am not bothered about finishing in the top 4 as we are not ready to Play at that Level on or off the field. As Long as we give 100% Play decent Rugby and are competitive that for me is realistic. I dont see the Need to link with HKR to get DR Players as for us the top 4 is unrealistic in my opinion.

I am not sure why Jason Netherton Needs to come to Halifax " to increase Levels of participation in the area". For me, Hull KR know that the Halifax area with Clubs like Siddal and King Cross etc, produce Quality Youngsters and are using Fax and this partnership as a way to get them to sign for them and have a stronger academý they have had. I thought we had Luke Ambler and Frank Watene doing this, who for me both do a great Job. Why does Netherton Need to stick his nose in? A Joint scouting Network is defo more in HKRs intersts more than ours for me.

The board have to make tough decisions and some are unpopular like this one. We the fans may feel the Club has sold out, but maybe the board feel they cant Keep putting in as they have done and are looking at alternatives. For me I have no idea where the game is going and what the System and the game will be like in 5 years. I cant see how a Club like us can plan and go Forward with the way things are in the game. I get the Feeling the Club are fearing getting left behind but I cant see Fev or Leigh getting anywhere in the next 5 years neither despite this alleged better System.

The Club has shot itself in the foot so much in the past 12 months from Harrisons awful rugby to "Tony Abbott buying the Shay Fiasco". The Club looked like it had finally listened to the fans with the Richard Marshall and the excellent Shirts. But this decision is once again is one that goes against what the fans want and could see again more drift away slowly. The excellent work by fans raising Money for the u20s for me Comes again as a decision that will upset People ith the end of the U20s. Our Youngsters will just be HKR rejects and sent to Gateshead.

Maybe the board could explain in more Detail exactly why it felt it needed to go don this road because to me it Comes across as the Club have given up and cutting costs. DO we really Need to have this Partnership as for me HKR will get far more out of it than us


Your anti HKR stance comes through loud and clear. Netherton is not sticking his nose in as his involvement will be on the basis agreed by the clubs. Your coach, I would suspect, has more knowledge about what he can bring to the table than you do.

You speak about "we the fans" but surely you don't think that people who frequent these pages are necessarily representative of fans as a whole.

You say that your club "finally listened to the fans" in the appointment of Richard Marshall and the excellent shirts. These decisions would be made because the BoD felt they were the right ones. The fans, whether the vocal minority or in fact the majority, thinking the same thing would happily be coincidental. If you do genuinely believe that the new coach was appointed because you and the rest of the fans wanted him why do you not then go along with his decision to enter the Partnership. Would he have accepted the post if he was not happy with the arrangement? If so he is not the sort of coach I would want at my club. Apparently Richard Marshall and Chris Chester, who incidentally is a Halifax supporter, sat down and thrashed out the details that they were both happy with. They know each other having played at Halifax together and so would I suspect each be able to speak their mind.

Why do you feel Leigh and Fev will not get anywhere in the next five years. Last year's performances by Leigh especially would suggest otherwise. Still only time will tell. It seems to me that saying it may have made you feel better and have been provoked by a touch of jealousy. After all you were talking about two clubs that performed better than you last season and do seem to be progressing as evidenced by their results whereas Halifax, by your own admission, are in somewhat of a decline.

Other parts of your post are also about your feelings and as fans we all have strong feelings about our club but often they are not based on actual evidence but only on our perceptions. I do agree that your BoD should give more details and then some of your fears may be allayed.

I cannot remember at the moment which Pemiership manager it was that said "The manager that listens to the fans will soon be out of a job" but I am sure the same applies to Rugby League coaches.
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Re: Hull KR Partnership : Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:25 pm  
Huddersfied have had a link up with Batley for the last few seasons but not really served its purpose for us, the younger lads/fringe players didnt really get much game time, mainly because Batley had a decent team and didnt really need them

we have now scrapped batley and linked up with oldham in the champ 1 so should serve its purpose better for us

all depends on how strong your squad is and how much your coach wants to play the hull kr players instead of his own which could effect morale etc.. batley got more out of it than us with being able to use our facilities physios etc
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Re: Hull KR Partnership : Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:35 pm  
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I can't take anyone's opinion seriously when they say this is the lowest point in the club's 140 year history. That is just an idiotic and overdramatic statement which devalues anything else they write on the subject.


:CLAP:

Decline? Selling out? Lowest point in a 140 history? Shooting itself in the foot? A couple of fans from other clubs hoping we get through our darkest hour?.........WTF!

I haven't felt so positive before a season in years.
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