Re: council statement. : Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:29 pm  

As succinct as ever Richie.

If the numpties took a minute to breathe and stop slinging their spears and arrows at Tony Abbott, they'd probably realise that a majority of Fax fans share their concerns, they're just more dignified in their approach.

Only difference, we KNOW we are tenants at the Shay and don't expect a say in the matter. Bell ends

Re: council statement. : Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:46 pm  

Actually, I will qualify my statement. "Some Town fans". There are some who I do engage with in banter on twitter and whilst we will never agree, it is at least a bit civil.

Re: council statement. : Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:58 pm  

marillion man wrote:

What has a seabird got to do with all of this waffle ?

I've been away for a weekend of gigs all over the place, that's why i chose not to attend the RL world cup
game at the Shay yesterday. As the broadcast went live on tv & Andrew Voss began to give our town, district & stadium many varied compliments i sent out a simple text to many mates & family saying this: "Looks great on tv a packed out Shay stadium". Most of the replies i received back were complimentry of the organisation, atmosphere, communal feeling etc etc etc. I got one negative, from a Town fan & former work colleague of mine ( Bubba knows who i mean ), his reply was this: "shame it's for rugby" Now, two things here, it shows the lack of intelligence & respect for our sport 'cos i believe the "rugby" match was played at Twickenham the day previously and secondly, smacked of pure jealousy, this game didn't even involve the club he dis-affectionately calls "squatters" it was a world cup game, that's world cup that over 10,000 people chose to attend. I know several RL & Halifax RLFC followers who chose not to go for various reasons yesterday but it appears that the game is alive and kicking despite all that we negate it, those of us who do.
Absolutely spiteful, jealousy & bitterness on all fronts sums up many Halifax Town football fans. Put an attendance in of over 10,000 and you can start talking i say, challenge on.

Correct

Re: council statement. : Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:50 am  

SuperGeoff wrote:

How much did the club put in?

If your rent as paid the council would be able to put that money into the Shay.

Some of the club put money and effort in, the amounts are their business ,in fact most people don't keep account of the donations of time and money and they don't expect to be asked to explain themselves.

Over the years others actually volunteered their skills, for example laying mortar and brickwork in parts of the Shay.

Former coach John Pendlebury for one who was a brickie by trade and did voluntary building works within the ground.


The rent issue has been flogged to death.

One last attempt.

Two people rent 2 apartments in the same block and both owe a fixed amount of rent.

Both tenants have an agreed time scale to pay the landlord.

One pays their amount early in the time scale, the other pays later, as long as they pay on time within the timescale then no problem.

What arrangements each party has with the landlord is their business and they do not have to explain themselves to people who aren't even one of the tenants involved anyway.

Re: council statement. : Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:59 am  

faxcar wrote:

Some of the club put money and effort in, the amounts are their business ,in fact most people don't keep account of the donations of time and money and they don't expect to be asked to explain themselves.

Over the years others actually volunteered their skills, for example laying mortar and brickwork in parts of the Shay.

Former coach John Pendlebury for one who was a brickie by trade and did voluntary building works within the ground.


The rent issue has been flogged to death.

One last attempt.

Two people rent 2 apartments in the same block and both owe a fixed amount of rent.

Both tenants have an agreed time scale to pay the landlord.

One pays their amount early in the time scale, the other pays later, as long as they pay on time within the timescale then no problem.

What arrangements each party has with the landlord is their business and they do not have to explain themselves to people who aren't even one of the tenants involved anyway.

Do you really believe we have an agreed timescale that allows us to be more than
one year in arrears ?I think we are in a mess.The coming months will show how
genuine TA is,now the shay sale is off.

Re: council statement. : Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:13 am  

mr t hall wrote:

Do you really believe we have an agreed timescale that allows us to be more than
one year in arrears ?I think we are in a mess.The coming months will show how
genuine TA is,now the shay sale is off.

Yes I do believe there is an agreement in place concerning the rent, otherwise the council would not have sat round the table with a bad debtor in the first place and would be taking stronger action.

It would be strange for someone to put £100,000 in the cash flow coffers and not be genuine or if they were unable to pay the rent and there were to be any negative repercussions from not doing so.

What is the basis for the being in a mess thought.

As you say only the future will show us where we really are and if the sale of the Shay is really off permanently.

Re: council statement. : Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:15 am  

I don`t believe the Shay sale is off the statement doesn`t say it will never be sold , it`s just been delayed .I believe it`s only a matter of time before the Council sells it ,granted it may not be to TA (would he still want it after all that has happened who knows) but someone will buy it no doubt.

Re: council statement. : Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:17 am  

[quote="mr t hall"]Do you really believe we have an agreed timescale that allows us to be more than
one year in arrears ?I think we are in a mess.The coming months will show how
genuine TA is,now the shay sale is off.[/q

You believe a councillor?

Re: council statement. : Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:30 am  

mr t hall wrote:

Do you really believe we have an agreed timescale that allows us to be more than
one year in arrears ?I think we are in a mess.The coming months will show how
genuine TA is,now the shay sale is off.

That just shows where your main loyalties lie then, doesn't it?

Re: council statement. : Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:38 am  

If we are in a mess it would be good to know where and why ,you never know we may be able to help.

Please be specific.