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| Quote sanjunien="sanjunien"PLEASE,this is scandalous ! I was also at these games including saturday
the official average for 2010 was 1900
2010 - the official crowd was 902 v Fax (clashed with a Stade Toulousain fixture also shown on national telly)
2009 - the official crowd was 2697 - the following day many of the Fax fans were at Perpignan - with great respect there is a slight difference between your estimation of 400 and 2679 is there not ? I suggest sir,you are a prize p*****k !
last saturday the Fax performance was poor - give some credit to TO13 please !!! they outplayed them in every department - I though Holroyd was excellent and tried to inspire a very lacklustre bunch of team mates with only Dylan Nash showing any real fight - the Fax fans were almost silent - didn't hear a peep from them except at the post-match p**s up with a few drowning their sorrows following the catastrophic loss ! Plus of course all the usual whinging about the ref etc etc.
The team,along with staff & other hangers on just down for a freebie beano no doubt left early,most of them without even bothering with the post-match meal etc which was the height of bad manners IMO.I can't ever recall a visiting team bus leaving so quickly.
All in all a bunch of bad losers all round.
Good luck for the rest of the season though - you will still be up at the top despite this small hiccup.'"
WRONG! The official average for 2010 was 1,438, NOT 1,900.
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Quote sanjunien="sanjunien"yes,TO13 support IS dwindling - congratulations,you got something right - problem is I can't see things improving much at TO13.Even a table topping team would be lucky to get 2000 at the moment with many french feling the pinch,just like you lot no doubt.The ticktes aren't cheap in france.
if you care to read correctly,you will ee sI noted 2009 as the year with 2679 NOT 2010 ok ?
saturday 18th july 2009
www.cooperativechampionship.co.u ... php?s=2009
which looks pretty good against the official figure of 2128 (same page) for the return at The Shay on the 5th september or don't you believe that either ?
by the way I didn't intend to be rude - 'p*****k' is a term of endearment - no offence meant.'"
May i suggest you lay of the Garlic and Cheap red wine. Also spout your drivel on the french site as you can tell most people on here are not interested in you arguing that french rugby is going from strength to strength and dont give a rats rectum.
Listen very carefully, I vill say zis only vonce. - Tolouse do not deserve to be in this league and should be in the Championship 1, Poor results for the last 3 years, Poor crowds, poor spectators, Except you of course sir who travels 700 miles per game.  Cause you do. Anyway i will leave you to plough your fields and feed your horses.
au revoir
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if you care to read correctly,you will ee sI noted 2009 as the year with 2679 NOT 2010 ok ?
saturday 18th july 2009
www.cooperativechampionship.co.u ... php?s=2009
which looks pretty good against the official figure of 2128 (same page) for the return at The Shay on the 5th september or don't you believe that either ?
by the way I didn't intend to be rude - 'p*****k' is a term of endearment - no offence meant.'"
May i suggest you lay of the Garlic and Cheap red wine. Also spout your drivel on the french site as you can tell most people on here are not interested in you arguing that french rugby is going from strength to strength and dont give a rats rectum.
Listen very carefully, I vill say zis only vonce. - Tolouse do not deserve to be in this league and should be in the Championship 1, Poor results for the last 3 years, Poor crowds, poor spectators, Except you of course sir who travels 700 miles per game.  Cause you do. Anyway i will leave you to plough your fields and feed your horses.
au revoir
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sanjunien wrote
"by the way I didn't intend to be rude - 'p*****k' is a term of endearment - no offence meant."
No offence taken, and so I send you our term of endearment.
On second thoughts, best not.

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| Quote Faxhali="Faxhali"May i suggest you lay of the Garlic and Cheap red wine. Also spout your drivel on the french site as you can tell most people on here are not interested in you arguing that french rugby is going from strength to strength and dont give a rats rectum.
Listen very carefully, I vill say zis only vonce. - Tolouse do not deserve to be in this league and should be in the Championship 1, Poor results for the last 3 years, Poor crowds, poor spectators, Except you of course sir who travels 700 miles per game.
Cause you do. Anyway i will leave you to plough your fields and feed your horses.
au revoir'"
Garlic is good for you or haven't you heard ? It helps reduce the problems associated with heart disease.Another fact btw.
I don't touch the cheap red wine personally it rots your guts you know - all that cats p**s gets exported to england where they charge you lot an arm and a leg at your local pub or restaurant,as for the supermarket wine,well......................
French RL domestically is either stable or increasing in crowd terms at least - TO13 IS stuggling (France is struggling generally probably in order to support the likes of the UK & Albania etc) but for some reason your precious RFL seem to want to keep wasting their/your money on it - why do you think this is ? it's not rocket science is it mon ami ?
Can you please at least try to spell Toulouse correctly - says a lot about your general level of education doesn't it ?
I dont travel 700 miles per game FWIW - it's actually 400 miles or 620 kms ,if you know what they are ?
Good luck at Whitehaven - you should be ok,even little old Lezignan managed to beat them ! 
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| Tickets arent cheap in France?
€10 for a Standing ticket is just over £8, the cheapest you'll get in at a game in our league for standing is £12/13, mind you we got 5 seating tickets (worth €20 each i believe) for €20 off the bloke in reception in the hotel, got a few more and sold them on, dont presume he paid anything for them but got them in return for displaying a couple of posters advertising the game.
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| Quote Fax4Life="Fax4Life"No way as I have put elsewhere was there that many, no way.
We got in the ground with about 20 mins to ko and there was about 50 people there, by ko there were a few in the stands as it was chucking it down plus us in front of the pavilion and some stayed in the bar, 500 tops!'"
A bit like our 4795 against Batley?
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| Quote MalcolmAgarsTieUps="MalcolmAgarsTieUps"A bit like our 4795 against Batley?'"
What's with the "our"? You're a FCHT supporter, not Fax.
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| Quote Fax Machine="Fax Machine"What's with the "our"? You're a FCHT supporter'"
That I may be but doesn't stop me supporting Fax as well does it?
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| Quote MalcolmAgarsTieUps="MalcolmAgarsTieUps"That I may be but doesn't stop me supporting Fax as well does it?'"
Just a meens to an end. 
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| Quote Faxhali="Faxhali"icon_lol.gif
Couldn't agree more, Now off you pop to till the fields.'"
why didn't you quote what was actually written by me and not add bits to suit yourself ?
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| Quote sanjunien="sanjunien"why did you quote what i actually meant to write ?'"
I thought i would correct what you really felt.
Good day to you my Escargot eating friend.
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Quote Faxhali="Faxhali"I thought i would correct what you really felt.
Good day to you my Escargot eating friend.'"
what's the point of misquoting someones quote ?
never tried snails btw - that's for the real froggies,not pseudos like me !
I'm a Saints fan,do they eat snails ?
what I feel is what I have written,including apologising for any offence caused...don't try to tell me what I feel.
btw en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse_Olympique_2010 &
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse_Olympique the 2009 figures are interesting
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Quote Faxhali="Faxhali"I thought i would correct what you really felt.
Good day to you my Escargot eating friend.'"
what's the point of misquoting someones quote ?
never tried snails btw - that's for the real froggies,not pseudos like me !
I'm a Saints fan,do they eat snails ?
what I feel is what I have written,including apologising for any offence caused...don't try to tell me what I feel.
btw en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse_Olympique_2010 &
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse_Olympique the 2009 figures are interesting
thanks
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| Quote Faxhali="Faxhali"I thought i would correct what you really felt.
Good day to you my Escargot eating friend.'"
I'm very partial to Escargot, as it happens, and Cuisses de grenouilles also.
Don't knock it until you've tried it. 
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| Quote Fax Machine="Fax Machine"I'm very partial to Escargot, as it happens, and Cuisses de grenouilles also.
Don't knock it until you've tried it.
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yeh,you're right,I should try them both - strange,thirty odd years in france and never tried them ?
they do stir-fried frogs legs in the local chinky,i'll try them next time,apparently it tastes like chicken.
I love winkles so probably snails are a bigger version ? - problem with the french way of snail eating is that they are a bit too heavy on the garlic when only a pinch would be enough for me - but then again,i'm a fussy old b****r 
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| I think that unfortunately the average crowd in Toulouse will stay around 1500 - 2000. The South-West of France is predominantly rugby union and that won't change. Who knows what the RFL were thinking by bringing in another French team when Catalans still need focus (IMO). But even though it is a long way to go, you'd be far stretched to find a more welcoming club and supporters in the heartlands. I haven't had the chance to go with Fax but I did go and watch the Challenge Cup Quarter Final match against Widnes back in 2005 (I was living out there and hadn't seen a RL match since Xmas - withdrawal sypmtoms meant I'd have watched any team!). I went on my own and had a brilliant day out mingling with both sets of supporters. There are clubs a lot closer to home I wouldn't think about visiting on my own. So they don't have the biggest crowds and you've got to cross the Channel and France to get there - they're a good club, fans enjoy it and whether we like it or not they are showing that they can compete with the top teams on their day. Is that not better than every team being a walkover? If we can win that trophy again at the end of the season then it really will have been another achievement.
And sanjunien - cuisses des grenouilles - elles sont bonnes. il faut les goûter!
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| Quote Blue&White84="Blue&White84"I think that unfortunately the average crowd in Toulouse will stay around 1500 - 2000. The South-West of France is predominantly rugby union and that won't change. Who knows what the RFL were thinking by bringing in another French team when Catalans still need focus (IMO). But even though it is a long way to go, you'd be far stretched to find a more welcoming club and supporters in the heartlands. I haven't had the chance to go with Fax but I did go and watch the Challenge Cup Quarter Final match against Widnes back in 2005 (I was living out there and hadn't seen a RL match since Xmas - withdrawal sypmtoms meant I'd have watched any team!). I went on my own and had a brilliant day out mingling with both sets of supporters. There are clubs a lot closer to home I wouldn't think about visiting on my own. So they don't have the biggest crowds and you've got to cross the Channel and France to get there - they're a good club, fans enjoy it and whether we like it or not they are showing that they can compete with the top teams on their day. Is that not better than every team being a walkover? If we can win that trophy again at the end of the season then it really will have been another achievement.
And sanjunien - cuisses des grenouilles - elles sont bonnes. il faut les goûter!'"
intelligent post and difficult to find anything to argue with - thanks
merci pour l'astuce,je vais les essayer,aucun problème - bonne soirée
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| Quote MalcolmAgarsTieUps="MalcolmAgarsTieUps"A bit like our 4795 against Batley?'"
yer that was one we 'fixed' tell us something new pal.
Think what you like I just know it was sad to see such an empty ground.
I heard from a work colleague that Huddersfield are giving away free tickets for Friday to 'bump' the crowd up.
What has the game come to chasing PR numbers, even if they don't pay!
How sad.
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| Quote bentleyman="bentleyman"Re the Union jack flag in the Fax colours behind the posts at the clubhouse end.It was left in the Melting Pot if you want to reclaim it pm me and i will see if i can get it to you'"
Sent you a PM, do you have my flag mate?
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| Quote sanjunien="sanjunien"You sound just like your coach,a bad loser - your lads expected to turn up and take the three points and totally disregarded the opposition - I don't think i've seen such a deflated coach at a press conference.For some reason the swagger and confidence at the corresponding game last year has disappeared ! Visiting Toulouse was great when you were winning then wasn't it ? All of a sudden it's "not so appealing",I wonder why ?
Regarding the crowd - I didn't bother to count them personally,silly me ! I asked in the club office after the game when MC was trying to get a dvd copy and this was the figure announced to me - don't whinge at me if the figure is correct or not,ok ? To say there were 500 is a complete joke - stop with the sour grapes please.
If our great game game is dying in the english heartlands then what else can we do ? I'm sure the RFL would love to survive with the game in it's traditional areas if only to save money on ventures like france etc but the truth is it isn't doing very well so you have to look for business elsewhere.If you people in the heartlands don't want the game then what is the RFL supposed to do ?'"
Firstly visiting Toulouse is great first time around and in the summer!
Second no sour grapes from me about the match we lost to the better team on the night, why say that to me?
Third, you had a go at Hunslets crowd yet as I said if there were 500 on Saturday at Toulouse that was about right. Why is what I saw with my own eyes a complete joke as you say?
Toulouse is a RU city, seeing the RU clubs set up on the way to the airport I can see why its very impressive, they also had a shop and even a cafe at the airport, a big club!
I think that there is only room for one French club in the English game as you have to ask is it worth spending a fortune on another paying teams to travel and put them up for two nights must cost a bomb!
Not worth it imo, not even a trip for the fans, soz.
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Quote sanjunien="sanjunien"yes,TO13 support IS dwindling - congratulations,you got something right - problem is I can't see things improving much at TO13.Even a table topping team would be lucky to get 2000 at the moment with many french feling the pinch,just like you lot no doubt.The ticktes aren't cheap in france.
if you care to read correctly,you will ee sI noted 2009 as the year with 2679 NOT 2010 ok ?
saturday 18th july 2009
www.cooperativechampionship.co.u ... php?s=2009
which looks pretty good against the official figure of 2128 (same page) for the return at The Shay on the 5th september or don't you believe that either ?
by the way I didn't intend to be rude - 'p*****k' is a term of endearment - no offence meant.'"
I scanned the link and the Toulouse crowd I first got to was 1200 (exactly)... I seem to remember that further up this thread?
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if you care to read correctly,you will ee sI noted 2009 as the year with 2679 NOT 2010 ok ?
saturday 18th july 2009
www.cooperativechampionship.co.u ... php?s=2009
which looks pretty good against the official figure of 2128 (same page) for the return at The Shay on the 5th september or don't you believe that either ?
by the way I didn't intend to be rude - 'p*****k' is a term of endearment - no offence meant.'"
I scanned the link and the Toulouse crowd I first got to was 1200 (exactly)... I seem to remember that further up this thread?
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Yes ihave sent you a pm
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| Quote Fax4Life="Fax4Life"Firstly visiting Toulouse is great first time around and in the summer!
Second no sour grapes from me about the match we lost to the better team on the night, why say that to me?
Third, you had a go at Hunslets crowd yet as I said if there were 500 on Saturday at Toulouse that was about right. Why is what I saw with my own eyes a complete joke as you say?
Toulouse is a RU city, seeing the RU clubs set up on the way to the airport I can see why its very impressive, they also had a shop and even a cafe at the airport, a big club!
I think that there is only room for one French club in the English game as you have to ask is it worth spending a fortune on another paying teams to travel and put them up for two nights must cost a bomb!
Not worth it imo, not even a trip for the fans, soz.'"
Toulouse is a great city all year round - clean,safe, friendly and easy to get around - plus it has a great RU team that plays good rugby.TO13 is a bonus for me,that's why i'm trying to sell up and move down there or thereabouts.I love both codes and currently go to watch Brive which is my nearest pro RU club to watch a decent level in the Top 14 plus the occasional european game.
So I take it from your apparent dislike of the Pink City (La Ville Rose) ,you won't be travelling there again with the fans next season ? (or maybe in the NRC ?)
Yes,as a neutral (recall i'm a Sants fan) you were indeed outplayed on the night or maybe outcoached ? I believe MC underestimated the home team and only the evergreen Holroyd who I thought was impressive and Nash who worked his socks off did your boys credit. I think MC learned a big lesson last weekend....
Please stop saying there were only 500 people there - it's ridiculous man ! the official figure was 1021 as announced by an official in the club office - we might just as well take any thing any club official from any club with a pinch of salt.I don't personally care if there were only 5 people there ! I can only tell you what I was told.If you want to call the club liars ,then do so.It's not my problem.Maybe the actual figure at Hunslet was also 'milked' ? maybe there were only 300 people present ? that's possible also using your parameters is it not ?
I agree that TO13 is an expensive luxury the RFL can do without but it's not us that make he rules is it ? The RFL feel the need to expand because the game is dying in their precious heartlands - the last thing they want is to waste your money on frivolous ventures in SW france i'm sure. If I were living within the M62 corridor I would feel the same as you.
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| The only reason heartland rugby may be seen to be 'dying on its feet' is purely down to the exclusion rules the RFL apply. If 'Fax (or Widnes, or Leigh or any other you care to chose) were in SL, I doubt you could use that analogy.
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