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Re: Sale of Shay : Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:40 pm  
Taken from the examiner today... http://bit.ly/18ZN51I
Taken from the examiner today... http://bit.ly/18ZN51I
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Re: Sale of Shay : Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:47 pm  
Pretty much agree with everything in that article.
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Re: Sale of Shay : Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:22 pm  
Don't agree on the Trust part, would have to say Why?
To recover the full costs is unrealistic, as much money as they can get and no more public money spent on it sounds fair enough to me. Angle it on public savings and money in the bank and i'm sure depending on who you talk to a picture can be painted different people will appreciate.
The rest of it seems common sense.
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Re: Sale of Shay : Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:46 pm  
If it is a trust, where does the money come from?
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Re: Sale of Shay : Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:49 pm  
Did the Council ever recover the full costs for running Halifax Town a few years ago when they ran the club? Did they not sell the club for 1 Pound? Why should The Shay be any different?
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Re: Sale of Shay : Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:02 pm  
halifaxjohn wrote:
If it is a trust, where does the money come from?


I gather the trust would consist of representatives
From both clubs, the council and probably a couple co opted in(maybe TA).

Money would come from the clubs rent, five a side pitch and car park(that brings in 80k a year). Allowing tony Abbott to lease the annexe will bring in income. And now that the east stand is complete a major money sponsorship and renaming of the stadium is probably a lot more achievable.

The old sst never made a loss, it just never made enough money to raise the £5 million to finish the east stand. We have the east stand now. We just need some expertise in selling the corporate/offices side of the stadium.
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Re: Sale of Shay : Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:04 pm  
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Did the Council ever recover the full costs for running Halifax Town a few years ago when they ran the club? Did they not sell the club for 1 Pound? Why should The Shay be any different?



A few years ago... You mean a few decades ago. :)
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Re: Sale of Shay : Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:20 pm  
Shaymen Down Under wrote:
I gather the trust would consist of representatives
From both clubs, the council and probably a couple co opted in(maybe TA).

Money would come from the clubs rent, five a side pitch and car park(that brings in 80k a year). Allowing tony Abbott to lease the annexe will bring in income. And now that the east stand is complete a major money sponsorship and renaming of the stadium is probably a lot more achievable.

The old sst never made a loss, it just never made enough money to raise the £5 million to finish the east stand. We have the east stand now. We just need some expertise in selling the corporate/offices side of the stadium.


The car park brings in 80k a year?
From whom, never seen a car park attendant there when it is full every day!

Think what you are saying that things will go on as the same, but with Mr Abbott leasing the annex, and been co opted on to the board.
Perhaps Mr Abbott has the "expertise" in selling the corporate/offices side of the stadium.
:DOH:
You seem to suggest that Mr Abbott should be the driving force of the "New Shay"
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Re: Sale of Shay : Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:54 pm  
The topic of The Shay was mentioned at a Council Meeting this week and it looks like the Anti Fax Brigade are not happy. One of the tools who went mentioned the following was discussed-

No mention of the six member cabinet but a vague mention of full council approval reviewing the bid for the first question. For the second question we were told £5.8m had been invested on the Shay, and £3.5 of that money was raised by "prudential borrowing," of which a lot is still to be paid after the council paying it back in installments from 2009/10 and onwards. So what I gather is that if the Shay were sold for £1.9m, then the council would still be in the red for a number of years...But towards the end of the hour a councillor stood up and went through a long monologue that was forced to be cut short by 7pm on the dot. He told the room that he wasn't sure where the "18 months ago" came from with regards to Abbott's bid. Apparently the council had an letter containing the bid hand-delivered on 2nd August 2013 which was opened three days later, representing Abbott's "final bid," which was taken to David Bosomworth soon later. But the councillor alleged that Abbott was there for talks 18 months ago, however these talks were on the subject of moving his offices to the Shay, creating 300/400 jobs there, then later talk from Abbott about doing up and running the south corner of the East Stand. Plans were brewing for him including a children's nursery in there(!), and at the same time Abbott endeavoured to sponsor any of our stands/the Shay itself, which as we can see now didn't come through. The councillor also noted however, that all Abbott's drawn out propositions managed to stretch across three paragraphs on one A4 paper....A councillor from the back then added a bit of background to Tony Abbott before the whole meeting went off on one about this year's Yorkshire in Bloom contests. He mentioned that Abbott married a northern woman and they started going to Siddal, where his son developed an interest in rugby and then got a season ticket at Town, mentioning Abbott's Tottenham relationship. He then of course moved into HRLFC.

Well done Mr Abbott for calling one of them a "Cock" on twitter after one of the Anti Fax Brigade was winding him up on twitter. The Anti Fax Brigade seem happy to go to any lengths to ruin peoples reputations and Bubba seems quite happy to allow such things to be discussed.
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Re: Sale of Shay : Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:15 pm  
The Lucky Black Cat wrote:
Did the Council ever recover the full costs for running Halifax Town a few years ago when they ran the club? Did they not sell the club for 1 Pound? Why should The Shay be any different?


The Council never ran either club so there's no money to recoup. But don't let simple well known facts stop you from being an idiot
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