Re: Sale of Shay : Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:26 pm  

Sumbody wrote:

The Council never ran either club so there's no money to recoup. But don't let simple well known facts stop you from being an idiot

Be nice to discuss without resorting to unpleasentnes

Re: Sale of Shay : Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:49 pm  

Sumbody wrote: The Council never ran either club so there's no money to recoup. But don't let simple well known facts stop you from being an idiot Clearly you know nothing about your football club as Calderdale Council did actually run the club for 4 years between 1987 and 1991. The taking over of the club was agreed and was passed by just a majority of one vote. It was the idea of Councillor David Helliwell. Mr Helliwell came out with such things as "We seek not to make a loss, but if we do, then its underwritten like any other council service which makes a loss" For more info click here http://books.google.de/books?id=bSseAgPPPoYC&pg=PA264&lpg=PA264&dq=calderdale+council++runs+football+club&source=bl&ots=e2FC7-h0In&sig=XfyUcSJN88PpQ9XSUpjhy-TdgKY&hl=de&sa=X&ei=sNxFUtfxMcSgtAask4CQBw&ved=0CFMQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=calderdale%20council%20%20runs%20football%20club&f=false I look forward to your apology

Sumbody wrote: The Council never ran either club so there's no money to recoup. But don't let simple well known facts stop you from being an idiot Clearly you know nothing about your football club as Calderdale Council did actually run the club for 4 years between 1987 and 1991. The taking over of the club was agreed and was passed by just a majority of one vote. It was the idea of Councillor David Helliwell. Mr Helliwell came out with such things as "We seek not to make a loss, but if we do, then its underwritten like any other council service which makes a loss" For more info click here http://books.google.de/books?id=bSseAgPPPoYC&pg=PA264&lpg=PA264&dq=calderdale+council++runs+football+club&source=bl&ots=e2FC7-h0In&sig=XfyUcSJN88PpQ9XSUpjhy-TdgKY&hl=de&sa=X&ei=sNxFUtfxMcSgtAask4CQBw&ved=0CFMQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=calderdale%20council%20%20runs%20football%20club&f=false I look forward to your apology

Re: Sale of Shay : Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:05 pm  

halifaxjohn wrote:

Be nice to discuss without resorting to unpleasentnes

Thank you for pointing out my unpleasantness but I was responding to a lie which surely is more unpleasant?Therefore, I respectably ask you to quote the post I was replying to and ask them not to resort to unpleasantness.

But that's not going to happen because the post I responded to was anti-football and neither side (football or rugby) want the truth getting in the way of them being complete and utter idiots trying to out point score each other.

I'm not attempting to gain any moral high ground, I just despair at the attitudes of both set of fans. Both need each other to make The Shay viable but are unwilling to accept that so we go no further forward.

Re: Sale of Shay : Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:15 pm  

Please show me where it was a lie what I put. I have shown you my evidence to show that Calderdale Council did run the football club and it cost the Tax payers money. Whether my post was anti football or not its still the truth. I have no time for football in general as for me its overhyped and boring. I have even less time for Halifax Town and especially the fans and the way Mr Abbott and the club in general is treated by such people is shocking. If you dont like what I put thats your problem.

Re: Sale of Shay : Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:29 pm  

The Lucky Black Cat wrote: Clearly you know nothing about your football club as Calderdale Council did actually run the club for 4 years between 1987 and 1991. The taking over of the club was agreed and was passed by just a majority of one vote. It was the idea of Councillor David Helliwell. Mr Helliwell came out with such things as "We seek not to make a loss, but if we do, then its underwritten like any other council service which makes a loss" For more info click here http://books.google.de/books?id=bSseAgPPPoYC&pg=PA264&lpg=PA264&dq=calderdale+council++runs+football+club&source=bl&ots=e2FC7-h0In&sig=XfyUcSJN88PpQ9XSUpjhy-TdgKY&hl=de&sa=X&ei=sNxFUtfxMcSgtAask4CQBw&ved=0CFMQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=calderdale%20council%20%20runs%20football%20club&f=false I look forward to your apology 1. Have you googled the definition of recently? Because 22-26 years is not included in any definition. 2, That was Halifax Town FC who no longer exist. If you knew anything about football you would know that FC Halifax Town came into existence in 2008 and have never been owned by the council I look forward to your apology I also appreciate the fact you have managed to harbour a grudge that goes back further than "where did the Thrum Hall/Jim Brown money go?" that is normally spouted

The Lucky Black Cat wrote: Clearly you know nothing about your football club as Calderdale Council did actually run the club for 4 years between 1987 and 1991. The taking over of the club was agreed and was passed by just a majority of one vote. It was the idea of Councillor David Helliwell. Mr Helliwell came out with such things as "We seek not to make a loss, but if we do, then its underwritten like any other council service which makes a loss" For more info click here http://books.google.de/books?id=bSseAgPPPoYC&pg=PA264&lpg=PA264&dq=calderdale+council++runs+football+club&source=bl&ots=e2FC7-h0In&sig=XfyUcSJN88PpQ9XSUpjhy-TdgKY&hl=de&sa=X&ei=sNxFUtfxMcSgtAask4CQBw&ved=0CFMQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=calderdale%20council%20%20runs%20football%20club&f=false I look forward to your apology 1. Have you googled the definition of recently? Because 22-26 years is not included in any definition. 2, That was Halifax Town FC who no longer exist. If you knew anything about football you would know that FC Halifax Town came into existence in 2008 and have never been owned by the council I look forward to your apology I also appreciate the fact you have managed to harbour a grudge that goes back further than "where did the Thrum Hall/Jim Brown money go?" that is normally spouted

Re: Sale of Shay : Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:55 pm  

Lol. If I had that history I'd deny it too.

Re: Sale of Shay : Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:18 pm  

Looks like Mr Butler junior is taking us back in time and he may have just scuppered any deal for the Shay altogether and as a result investment in improving the Shay probably for many years to come if ever now. Thing is whilst it would be great for a Stadium Trust to run the stadium it won't work with the current set up as the income from the car parking, 5 a side pitch, East Stand and the clubs rent won't be enough to invest in the extra facilities needed to create more income. Gavin you are living in cloud cuckoo land as a Trust won't have the money they will just tick over and you will have lost us an opportunity to get further improvements to the Shay imo.
But don't let that stop you.

Re: Sale of Shay : Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:18 pm  

Fax4Life wrote:

Looks like Mr Butler junior is taking us back in time and he may have just scuppered any deal for the Shay altogether and as a result investment in improving the Shay probably for many years to come if ever now. Thing is whilst it would be great for a Stadium Trust to run the stadium it won't work with the current set up as the income from the car parking, 5 a side pitch, East Stand and the clubs rent won't be enough to invest in the extra facilities needed to create more income. Gavin you are living in cloud cuckoo land as a Trust won't have the money they will just tick over and you will have lost us an opportunity to get further improvements to the Shay imo.
But don't let that stop you.

The last time Bubba came up with a plan B it was soundly rejected by his own fans and The Town Board have had nothing to do with him since , he isn`t "living in cloud cuckoo land " as he was pushed out of the nest some time back. The very idea that anyone would want to revert back to the SST arrangement is laughable to be honest ,the idea was good but didn`t work and would certainly need a good man with vision at the helm .

Re: Sale of Shay : Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:48 pm  

Why would anyone oppose the sale of The Shay?

Anyone with knowledge of former Bradford City Chairman Gordon Gibb's pension fund.

Anyone with knowledge about The Goldstone Ground, Brighton,
Nene Park, Rushden,
Feethams,Darlington
Plough Lane, Wimbledon
And numerous other sports grounds, not just football stadia.

Anyone with knowledge of The Thrum Hall ground fiasco.

Anyone with knowledge of previous Halifax Town Chairmen.

Anyone with knowledge of the ‘Save our Shay’ campaign by both sets of supporters a few years back.

Apart from the meccano set in the corner The ground is looking its best in nearly 100 years.
Anyone who does not fall for the Labour B.S. about how much it costs to run The Shay. They have had long enough to utilise the office space and leisure facilities.

If you have no knowledge of the above it is no wonder you want The Shay sold. If you have no knowledge of the above you should really keep quiet and try thinking a little.

Re: Sale of Shay : Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:30 pm  

Realist Shay wrote:

Why would anyone oppose the sale of The Shay?

Anyone with knowledge of former Bradford City Chairman Gordon Gibb's pension fund.

Anyone with knowledge about The Goldstone Ground, Brighton,
Nene Park, Rushden,
Feethams,Darlington
Plough Lane, Wimbledon
And numerous other sports grounds, not just football stadia.

Anyone with knowledge of The Thrum Hall ground fiasco.

Anyone with knowledge of previous Halifax Town Chairmen.

Anyone with knowledge of the ‘Save our Shay’ campaign by both sets of supporters a few years back.

Apart from the meccano set in the corner The ground is looking its best in nearly 100 years.
Anyone who does not fall for the Labour B.S. about how much it costs to run The Shay. They have had long enough to utilise the office space and leisure facilities.

If you have no knowledge of the above it is no wonder you want The Shay sold. If you have no knowledge of the above you should really keep quiet and try thinking a little.

So what your really saying is unless we support your view we should keep quiet? Jog on Richard.