Re: Crusaders : Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:11 am  

Starbug wrote:

Just for the 1st 3 years , or as long as they are receiving ' extra ' monies , as it would be unfair ( and possibly counter productive , as it would perhaps set unrealistic expectations by the fans ) on other clubs and other clubs owners and fans

You do understand I mean promotion from Championship 1 to the Championship ( bloody confusing these stupid league names aren't they ? )

What's to be confused about RL I ask myself?

Re: Crusaders : Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:49 am  

The Lucky Black Cat wrote:

I would welcome them back under the following condition:

1. From the payment Parachute they pay ALL the pension money owed to former players and officials. Its not right these guys should not be payed up in full what they are owed.
2. That 10 players out of 17 on match day must be Welsh born or Welsh Heritage.
3. They are allowed a maximum 3 Overseas players as a development team(Same goes for Gateshead and Skolars)
4. That they play out of Wrexham and are totally independant from South Wales Scorpions
5. That they have to meet the same criteria for SL as the rest of the Championship clubs
6. That they receive 100,000 a year from the RFL, but that money is to be spent only on a Development Programme and running an Academy in the U18 and U20 League

No to number 6 as before the stupid Franchise system I would have agreed with you, but paying them to run a junior set up would put them ahead of clubs like us who struggle to afford to run one so 'ticking the box' and it would be used against us by others ('you don't have a youth set up unlike Crusaders').
No favours other than they can play in the Championship not Championship 1.

But this being RL I won't hold my breath, whats the betting that they get their debts 'wiped' clean especailly that loan and given some cash to compete next season plus an allowance for extra overseas quota players 'cos they lost all their existing SL players? i.e the RFL preferential treatment of an expansion club.

Re: Crusaders : Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:56 am  

Will Crusaders start with a points deduction what ever league their in? We don't know the reason for their exit from SL yet, wonder if it was some sort of irregularity?

Re: Crusaders : Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:58 am  

Cassandra wrote:

Will Crusaders start with a points deduction what ever league their in? We don't know the reason for their exit from SL yet, wonder if it was some sort of irregularity?

They will start with an extra 6 points to help them get over their 'difficulties' and sacrifice of saving the RFL the trouble of dumping Wakey.

Re: Crusaders : Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:09 pm  

Cassandra wrote:

Will Crusaders start with a points deduction what ever league their in? We don't know the reason for their exit from SL yet, wonder if it was some sort of irregularity?

They asked to leave.

Re: Crusaders : Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:46 pm  

I would guess that the RFL are already spending a considerable amount of money on junior development in Wales , so no , any new Crusader incarnation should not be credited with that until able to fund it's own , just as the rest of us do

Also I'd avoid giving them any extra overseas quota , Wrexham in close enough to 5 SL clubs , that could all provide loan or dual erg players , so I'd go for 3 extra loan or DR , but on a sliding scale reducing perhaps by 1 each year

As much as I am just as annoyed by the wasted money and damage done by the Crusaders experiment , the possibility of a new Championship club with even a small initial fan base is too good to be missed