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Re: Fax v bulldogs : Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:05 am  
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Thought I would wait before posting as I were gutted last night.

First time in a while Ive woke up gutted about a rugby game as well. For most of the game I thought we played pretty well and dominated for long periods so to throw it away like we did was awful.

We need a hooker and a half back. Its that simple. Our distribution from acting half is appalling and its a good job we have a good pack because we would struggle to get going forward the ball moves so slow.

I thought Fieldhouse went really well along with Worrincy before his injury. Sheriffe was steady at best as he has been. I didnt really notice Heaton and Tyrer but that no surprise as its very rare they touch the ball. Murrell is quality and was superb along with Handforth apart from that awful bullet pass to Tyrer. Ambler was good again and I thought Bracek, Tonks, Robinson, Divorty, and Manning went ok without been spectacular.

Im not sure what part Casey plays to be honest. He dosnt seem to add anything to the team and probably struggles because of the utility tag. Ashall has been pushed in at hooker because of mistakes made with pre season signings and its not working. He isnt a hooker and its painfully obvious to see. Time for KH to admit he made a mistake and maybe try something else. I was going to say maybe try Thackery at hooker as he should give a bit of spark around the play the ball but a hooker has to defend and Thackery cant tackle for toffee and again at this moment Im not sure what he brings to the team. Maybe give Casey a shot at hooker? He certainly has the defensive qualities for it.

That leaves Sam Barlow. I really do hope that he dosnt just turn in to a pantomime villain. At times last season he looked like the best forward in the league and you could see him playing in SL and then at the beginning of each season he just looks like he is stealing a wage and from one of the, if not the, top earner at the club we should expect a lot more than what he is giving at the moment. He needs to knuckle down and get back to where he were last season.

Fair post, toally agree about Barlow, at times he can be great but usually falls back into his penalty conceding way's. can't agree you dominated for long periods though, I thought our forwards had the measure of yours a I did think Ambler was outstanding last night. i spoke with Rettie during the game and was shocked to learn of his injuries from a horrific attack in Leeds, he's face has been partially rebuilt and he's hoping to be back in two weeks.
Just shows how brave these blokes are, good on him.
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Re: Fax v bulldogs : Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:10 am  
That was our best performance of the season so far in the first half, tremendous and we started off in the second half well but got bogged down ans went back to one man drives until Tiger got that try, we then should have won it at 18-8 but stupidly threw a pass that was risky and gave them their 2nd try when we just needed to put pressure on Batley and keep them in their own half, why?
Our kicking game was good but what does Thacks offer, we went down hill when he came on. Scott Murrell needs to lose some weight as we need him for 80 minutes!
Batley turned the screw when they needed to after that lucky break when we gave them the ball although they got lots of possession when we tried to get the ball and knocked on twice, it could have been so different!
Fair result though I think we still have room for improvement, as others are saying our centres and hookers are our weak point.
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Re: Fax v bulldogs : Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:34 am  
Yep i think we are all in agreement. Need some more creativity!! When is Craig Cook going to be fit? I completely agree on Casey and Thackeray, what do they bring to the team? The only time i see Casey is when he comes on the pitch and again when he goes off. Forwards were pretty solid but we need a centre and half back. We aren't that far away from being a good side. Im glad Barlow is back, yes he can give stupid penalties away but even in his first game back yesterday he looks like the most likely to break the line. How good is Fieldhouse at the back? He just doesn't drop a thing.

Very frustrating evening, i dont think i have been that annoyed after a game in a long time but heyho at least we are still unbeaten.
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Re: Fax v bulldogs : Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:53 am  
harrison said before the game that barlow was in the team to do a job. he certainly did his job. took ball up well and wond up the batley players which should have resulted in one sent off and another binned. he gave away a silly penalty for pushing knees in face of player getting up after tackle but when batley player did that at end of first half and robinson took exception to it he had penalty awarded against him. good game but fax threw it away and if ref had balls it would have been very differant against 11 men for 10 mins and 12 for rest of game.
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Re: Fax v bulldogs : Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:33 am  
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That was our best performance of the season so far in the first half, tremendous and we started off in the second half well but got bogged down ans went back to one man drives until Tiger got that try, we then should have won it at 18-8 but stupidly threw a pass that was risky and gave them their 2nd try when we just needed to put pressure on Batley and keep them in their own half, why?
Our kicking game was good but what does Thacks offer, we went down hill when he came on. Scott Murrell needs to lose some weight as we need him for 80 minutes!
Batley turned the screw when they needed to after that lucky break when we gave them the ball although they got lots of possession when we tried to get the ball and knocked on twice, it could have been so different!
Fair result though I think we still have room for improvement, as others are saying our centres and hookers are our weak point.

murrell went off injured and then fax made poor decisions. also says he lost a few teeth due to the high shot in first half.
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Re: Fax v bulldogs : Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:50 am  
My twopenneth - Handforth played really well, and I agree him and Murrell play really well together. That try by Handforth, cheeky but loved it.

Thacks errr.... well.... doesn't work for me.

Barlow, waste of space so far this year.

Tyrer, unlucky is the best word I am looking for, tackled well but didn't quite get the rub of the green in regards to passes.

Worrincy, think folk are being harsh, ran well and hard - didn't stop trying.

Congrats to Adam Robinson, that was his 150th pro game too!

Tonks one handed ball collection like a full back was brill but he was unlucky with the try that went over him while he was trying to get up.

Hats off to Batley and Campbell for that try. Must of hurt!
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Re: Fax v bulldogs : Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:23 am  
What a great game. First half played at fanastic pace. end to end, mostly due to Murrels superb kicking. We finally played a game with the necessary intensity, until the last ten minutes unfortunately. Batley matched us, in fact I thought they ouplayed us at times but our line defence was superb with everyone working overtime. There must be a lot of acheing bodies this morning. All the forwards were superb. Handforth showed how he can play given a platform by his forwards. Worrincy looked mean and keen with one suoprb trysaver tackle early on. Sherriffe sound (nearly) but has lost a yard. Centres still work in progress (as KH likes to say) but still we can`t seem to give em half a yard start. i thought our D had given us the points but credit to Batley a super breakaway try finsished with real pace by their winger. Even then it took the hardest pass of all to defend ( poor one on the ground) to finally split us open. I think if it had gone to hand we would have defended that one too. Can`t wait for next week now. Enthusiasm restored. Who needs Sooper League.
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Re: Fax v bulldogs : Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:31 am  
Won't go into the game but concerning the half-backs, we need to keep Murrell and Handforth partnered. As someone said earlier last night for Handforth looked back to his old self, controlled the game and didn't go wandering. And Murrell is an allround class act! I stated ages ago we should maybe put Thacks at 13 and let him do his business instead of placing the playmaking role on his shoulders because he's not that effective in that role.
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Re: Fax v bulldogs : Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:39 am  
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What a great game. First half played at fanastic pace. end to end, mostly due to Murrels superb kicking. We finally played a game with the necessary intensity, until the last ten minutes unfortunately. Batley matched us, in fact I thought they ouplayed us at times but our line defence was superb with everyone working overtime. There must be a lot of acheing bodies this morning. All the forwards were superb. Handforth showed how he can play given a platform by his forwards. Worrincy looked mean and keen with one suoprb trysaver tackle early on. Sherriffe sound (nearly) but has lost a yard. Centres still work in progress (as KH likes to say) but still we can`t seem to give em half a yard start. i thought our D had given us the points but credit to Batley a super breakaway try finsished with real pace by their winger. Even then it took the hardest pass of all to defend ( poor one on the ground) to finally split us open. I think if it had gone to hand we would have defended that one too. Can`t wait for next week now. Enthusiasm restored. Who needs Sooper League.

Think that is a very fair and honest post.
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Re: Fax v bulldogs : Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:06 pm  
KH rates Casey and you may have picked up on the Kevin Sinfield comparison.

We have posted about options in the side and the hooking role is one area were we need some contrast and different style as with the halves and centres.

In recent years several sides have had a good strong distributer and then a good pacey runner in that position.

One example would be Cunningham and Roby at Saints and Leeds, Wigan, Bradford have had this type of set up.
This variety is constantly asking question of the opposing defence and if possible that's what we need.

Ashall looked a lot better player when he first came because he was interchanged with Penky, now he is too predicatable as an invidual which probably makes him look worse than he has been and could be if we could get the right partner.
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