Re: Fans forum : Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:34 pm  

mr t hall wrote:

The reality is we are a freefall club struggling on gates that have dropped from a regular
8000 to 1250.While i am against DR personally(with super league not champ 1-I'm a double standarder)i would not stop supporting the club because of decisions that the club make which are deemed to be of benefit.Come the day we merge with the dulls and play at odsal then i feck off to Siddal.

Fair points Ian but not enough, in my opinion, to justify the club selling its soul. P.S. a bit early I know, but I have been talking to Big Daddy (Gilly) about a Christmas Eve wander with the lads if you fancy it.

Re: Fans forum : Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:14 pm  

Hudd-Shay wrote:

Fair points Ian but not enough, in my opinion, to justify the club selling its soul. P.S. a bit early I know, but I have been talking to Big Daddy (Gilly) about a Christmas Eve wander with the lads if you fancy it.

I'm in,no pussying off after 3 pints though.

Re: Fans forum : Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:44 pm  

I would support the club even if it had a squad of 18 Aussies.

Re: Fans forum : Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:33 pm  

It was stressed at the meeting that the DR link up would only happen if it was in our best interests. Halifax RL would not allow the SL club to use us to get players returning from injury match fit (the example given at the meeting was Adrian Morley turning out for Swinton).
The link up with a lower club would allow players such as Joe Martin, who may initially struggle to hold down a first team position, the opportunity to get some game time. Halifax appear to be (temporarily at least) ditching the U20s this year.
I am against the principle of DR, but it is beginning to look as though we will get left behind if we don't look into getting some benefits from the system, especially considering that Richard Marshall has had the bulk of his squad chosen for him by Karl Harrison.

Re: Fans forum : Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:44 pm  

I have to agree with Mr Hudd-Shay. Dual Reg as long as it benefits. can anyone inform me of a lower league club that has benefited?
I can give you examples the other way. Hunslet - dual reg. 5 Rhinos, all decent players, Hood, Moore, Shinehorst etc, but still get relegated.
Swinton - Take various Warrington players throughout the season (including Briers and Morley!!!), and get relegated. Some of the best results for these clubs came when the DR players were recalled.
At the Forum on Monday the message was TEAM HALIFAX. all DR does is destroy teams & teamwork. Put yourself in the boots of our fringe players, training 4 nights a week and not getting a chance to play because of DR.
One of the worst 40 minuets down the Shay by the away team last season was the first half against Leigh. just before half time they withdrew their Wigan DR boys and replaced them with squad players and we all know what happend next. Shortly after that the Centurions announced DR did not work and would be going it alone.
DR goes against my principles and I don`t want to follow a team that feels it needs to go down that route

Re: Fans forum : Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:51 pm  

I see no benefit to us of DR,maybe there are people out there who can educate us sceptics? Take the scenario we have a centre out injured for a month so we bring a loan player in for a month..simple.The DR route..well you can have a.n.other this week and maybe next or if we get injuries he'll be recalled etc etc it's bollox and makes any planning impossible.Add the damage it may do if someone in the squad is awaiting a call up only to find when his chance arrives his place has gone to DR.

Re: Fans forum : Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:19 pm  

mr t hall wrote:

I see no benefit to us of DR,maybe there are people out there who can educate us sceptics? Take the scenario we have a centre out injured for a month so we bring a loan player in for a month..simple.The DR route..well you can have a.n.other this week and maybe next or if we get injuries he'll be recalled etc etc it's bollox and makes any planning impossible.Add the damage it may do if someone in the squad is awaiting a call up only to find when his chance arrives his place has gone to DR.

I'm not certain, but I would guess that it's been a lot harder to get players in on loan once the SL clubs have DR agreements in place. Obviously in 2015 things should be a little different with the reduction in SL club numbers plus Leigh's ditching of DR and Swinton etc's relegations.

Re: Fans forum : Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:27 pm  

I agree with Hudds' & his feelings re- D/R.

I stopped watching the team last season on the basis of the lack of entertainment being served up, it was the only way i saw fit, to vote with my feet, in protest if you like. I noted my feelings to half of our b.o.d. I warned them of the falling gates & revenue stream & made those comments based on what other previously long-time loyal supporters were saying to me. Let's face it, we weren't wrong !!
Now we must move on & look to the future, it goes without saying, but D/R is wrong, the whole moral/ethic of it is wrong. I don't really know what the new coach can do other than investigate all avenues & credit to him for laying his cards on the table so early in the piece with this topic refusing to go away it looks to me like it will happen one way or another.

What i do find sad is the comments criticising Hudd's for standing up for what he believes in on an online forum, or of anyone else for that matter. If clubs continue to lose support from the terraces like ours have over the last decade or so, because of whatever reason, i see no future because it's possible there'll be no club to support potentially.

Let's look at another scenario, let's say we all packed up & stopped following Halifax RLFC, yet a Dr Koucash type figure emerged from somewhere to plough in millions of pounds because he found himself a new weekend pass-time. Let's say, on the back of all his wealthy input, the team under-performed, achieved no noteworthy success to celebrate and recorded losses of let's say
£ 5 million in it's annual reports. Would that type of supporting our team still have the same proud feeling for those who remained ? You know, having been successful in your own lifetime supporting them, almost perennial yo-yo relegation - promotion candidates, boom & bust, have to leave your traditional home and move into a different stadium, team managers/coaches by the boat load etc etc etc

I think we should be careful what we wish for, but from what i'm hearing, the style of play that is being currently coached & practiced by Halifax is radfically & tactically different from the garbage that kept the likes of me away for over half of last season so hopefully entertainment will be there for us again rather than blind loyalty.

Yorkshire tea 0%, got a night shift to work later today, not MMMMM....

Re: Fans forum : Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:49 pm  

Good post.hope there's 100s more supporters like you who have voted with their feet who can be enticed back next season.Only downside for me is bigger queues in SSB.

Re: Fans forum : Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:56 pm  

NORTON FAX wrote: I have to agree with Mr Hudd-Shay. Dual Reg as long as it benefits. can anyone inform me of a lower league club that has benefited? I can give you examples the other way. Hunslet - dual reg. 5 Rhinos, all decent players, Hood, Moore, Shinehorst etc, but still get relegated. Swinton - Take various Warrington players throughout the season (including Briers and Morley!!!), and get relegated. Some of the best results for these clubs came when the DR players were recalled. At the Forum on Monday the message was TEAM HALIFAX. all DR does is destroy teams & teamwork. Put yourself in the boots of our fringe players, training 4 nights a week and not getting a chance to play because of DR. One of the worst 40 minuets down the Shay by the away team last season was the first half against Leigh. just before half time they withdrew their Wigan DR boys and replaced them with squad players and we all know what happend next. Shortly after that the Centurions announced DR did not work and would be going it alone. DR goes against my principles and I don`t want to follow a team that feels it needs to go down that route Well that isn't true Leigh had done away with DR before the start of last season. That day the only 'wigan' player was Sam Hopkins who was on loan back to us after many years at Leigh. No Duel Reg players that day or indeed at all last season. Match report to prove it - http://www.skysports.com/rugbyleague/ma ... 32,00.html

NORTON FAX wrote: I have to agree with Mr Hudd-Shay. Dual Reg as long as it benefits. can anyone inform me of a lower league club that has benefited? I can give you examples the other way. Hunslet - dual reg. 5 Rhinos, all decent players, Hood, Moore, Shinehorst etc, but still get relegated. Swinton - Take various Warrington players throughout the season (including Briers and Morley!!!), and get relegated. Some of the best results for these clubs came when the DR players were recalled. At the Forum on Monday the message was TEAM HALIFAX. all DR does is destroy teams & teamwork. Put yourself in the boots of our fringe players, training 4 nights a week and not getting a chance to play because of DR. One of the worst 40 minuets down the Shay by the away team last season was the first half against Leigh. just before half time they withdrew their Wigan DR boys and replaced them with squad players and we all know what happend next. Shortly after that the Centurions announced DR did not work and would be going it alone. DR goes against my principles and I don`t want to follow a team that feels it needs to go down that route Well that isn't true Leigh had done away with DR before the start of last season. That day the only 'wigan' player was Sam Hopkins who was on loan back to us after many years at Leigh. No Duel Reg players that day or indeed at all last season. Match report to prove it - http://www.skysports.com/rugbyleague/ma ... 32,00.html