Re: Singings for next year.it might improve crowds this year : Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:02 pm  

freddies wig wrote:

What about Tony though? Is he still around? Does Reactiv, or whatever his company may be called now, still have shares? Anyone know?

According to the records at Companies House Reactiv Media own the shares.

But this is at 29.3.16, from the Annual Return.

So it is possible that the shares could have still been "in" Reactiv and form part of the liquidation (they would have no value so see no reason why the liquidator would be bothered with them and so they would not be listed as an asset) or they could have been sold/transfered to someone after 29.3.16 and before Reactiv went in to liquidation on 24.4.16.

I asked a member of the Board this question and was told that they were transfered in to Mr Abbots name between these dates. Clearly he may still own then or have sold/transfered them subsequently.

Re: Singings for next year.it might improve crowds this year : Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:25 pm  

The game and even the clubs of SL struggle to find anything other than Small town sponsors. Rugby League is not really a market big companies want. Halifax are never on TV and play in front of mainly 1500 fans-how you going to get a big sponsor to splash out money when they are not going to get much back. Some people really need to wake up and live in the real world. The game and most clubs are just about hanging on in there. Unless a club manages to get a millionaire backer willing to throw money around then it will struggle. Thats where we are. A small club struggling just like much of the rest of the game including SL.

Have we made mistakes? Yes but realistically we cant afford to be a proper FT team that can get top players. We would be going after the same SL dregs as Bradford, Sheffield and Leigh. Where has that got them? The quality within the game is for me at an all time low- look at the state of most games in SL! Tell me who the club should bring in who would be a top signing in your eyes? The club has tried DR- not really worked. Its tried Loan players who are hit and miss (Sarsfield). It has brought in 3 overseas players with varying degrees of success. The Club has looked to get some decent youngsters in (Butler, Moore. Punchard etc) and run a reserve team. Sadly the game itself cant be bothered and we are left playing the same teams every other week! Batley and Fev have had good and some may so luck this year like we did last year. But for all that Fev, Batley, London and probably Leigh will still be in our League next year.

It seems we have to bitch and moan about everything. RM is not some messiah and he has never claimed to be. But the way the daggers are out for him is poor. The players and Coaching staff need motivating and comments that motivate not pull them down all the time. The 8s are a waste and we need one win to make the Semis in a pointless comp. Why not use the youngsters and see what they can do. Yes we could and should have played better. I dont think the negative comments are needed to say that to the Coaches and players-they know that themselves. We have lost our way a bit. Improvements need to be made for sure. Lessons have been learnt. But there is no need to act like rats and jump for no real reason. Being a fan means we go through good and mainly bad- thats just the way it is. If you want to just want the good times go elsewhere.

The board are doing a good job. No doubt they could do better but we could be in a far worse situation. People forget the stuff the board members do behind the scenes that go unnoticed. Its not just putting money in but time and effort as well. If somebody thinks they can do better then step forward put your Cash, time and energy in-sure none of the current board will not be grateful. Easy to criticize others but what do you do for the club?

Re: Singings for next year.it might improve crowds this year : Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:40 pm  

The Lucky Black Cat wrote:

The game and even the clubs of SL struggle to find anything other than Small town sponsors. Rugby League is not really a market big companies want. Halifax are never on TV and play in front of mainly 1500 fans-how you going to get a big sponsor to splash out money when they are not going to get much back. Some people really need to wake up and live in the real world. The game and most clubs are just about hanging on in there. Unless a club manages to get a millionaire backer willing to throw money around then it will struggle. Thats where we are. A small club struggling just like much of the rest of the game including SL.

Have we made mistakes? Yes but realistically we cant afford to be a proper FT team that can get top players. We would be going after the same SL dregs as Bradford, Sheffield and Leigh. Where has that got them? The quality within the game is for me at an all time low- look at the state of most games in SL! Tell me who the club should bring in who would be a top signing in your eyes? The club has tried DR- not really worked. Its tried Loan players who are hit and miss (Sarsfield). It has brought in 3 overseas players with varying degrees of success. The Club has looked to get some decent youngsters in (Butler, Moore. Punchard etc) and run a reserve team. Sadly the game itself cant be bothered and we are left playing the same teams every other week! Batley and Fev have had good and some may so luck this year like we did last year. But for all that Fev, Batley, London and probably Leigh will still be in our League next year.

It seems we have to bitch and moan about everything. RM is not some messiah and he has never claimed to be. But the way the daggers are out for him is poor. The players and Coaching staff need motivating and comments that motivate not pull them down all the time. The 8s are a waste and we need one win to make the Semis in a pointless comp. Why not use the youngsters and see what they can do. Yes we could and should have played better. I dont think the negative comments are needed to say that to the Coaches and players-they know that themselves. We have lost our way a bit. Improvements need to be made for sure. Lessons have been learnt. But there is no need to act like rats and jump for no real reason. Being a fan means we go through good and mainly bad- thats just the way it is. If you want to just want the good times go elsewhere.

The board are doing a good job. No doubt they could do better but we could be in a far worse situation. People forget the stuff the board members do behind the scenes that go unnoticed. Its not just putting money in but time and effort as well. If somebody thinks they can do better then step forward put your Cash, time and energy in-sure none of the current board will not be grateful. Easy to criticize others but what do you do for the club?

Re: Singings for next year.it might improve crowds this year : Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:48 pm  

Well said, but remember that it's those 1500 or so that provide a decent slug of funding for the club each year, many of whom have done so for many years.

We obviously can't survive without the generosity of the BoD and local sponsorship, but I sense that the biggest frustration on here is that we want a little more transparency from the board, and indeed probably RM, over what our strategy is, what our (true) goals are, and what the journey to get there might look like. Clearly we can't be so transparent that we start showing our hand too much to our rivals, but as they say, the silence is deafening. The "open evenings" have been good, and the interviews on Fax TV Ok (albeit a closed shop now without paying), but the comms needs to be more regular and consistent.

It's been said elsewhere that England have been building a team since 1966. Fax have only been doing that for the last 13 years...

Re: Singings for next year.it might improve crowds this year : Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:53 pm  

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What do you do for the club?i pay 20 quid to watch a part time team.we have no better record than when we had Harrison.by the way this a fans forum and we are allowed to put are points across.

Re: Singings for next year.it might improve crowds this year : Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:02 pm  

87legends. wrote:

What do you do for the club?i pay 20 quid to watch a part time team.we have no better record than when we had Harrison.by the way this a fans forum and we are allowed to put are points across.

Instead of moaning on a stupid message board maybe go to one of the Fan Forums and put your point across in a constructive manner there. This is a message board that is used by very few fans who hide behind a name. Put your point across here if you want but realistically few people will read it.

Re: Singings for next year.it might improve crowds this year : Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:25 pm  

87legends. wrote:

What do you do for the club?i pay 20 quid to watch a part time team.we have no better record than when we had Harrison.by the way this a fans forum and we are allowed to put are points across.

It's "only" a forum, and I'm probably being a troglodyte, but it does jar my senses when folk can't write. "we are allowed to put are points across" ... "our points", please... etc.

Time for me to get down...

Re: Singings for next year.it might improve crowds this year : Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:52 pm  

There has to be an element of realism as to where we are at as a club and also the game as a whole.
The Fax Board have gone down the right road in my eyes by not going for boom or bust as we simply haven't got the finacial clout.
With limited revenue stream at the home games in gate money and East stand corporate it's tough to see how we can compete with the big boys.
We all want to see us top of the league and pushing for SL but that's easier said than done with our current fan base and lack of a major sponsor.
It's easy to criticise but we need to look at the bigger picture and be grateful for the BOD's support both financially and otherwise plus the financial support from any of the players or club sponsors. Without them we could be talking on the Championship 1 forum debating how we stood in a 200 large crowd away at Gloucestershire!!!!!(no offence to them)
We are not far off and with 3-4 quality players added next season we will be up there again.

Re: Singings for next year.it might improve crowds this year : Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:06 pm  

Living The Dream wrote:

There has to be an element of realism as to where we are at as a club and also the game as a whole.
The Fax Board have gone down the right road in my eyes by not going for boom or bust as we simply haven't got the finacial clout.
With limited revenue stream at the home games in gate money and East stand corporate it's tough to see how we can compete with the big boys.
We all want to see us top of the league and pushing for SL but that's easier said than done with our current fan base and lack of a major sponsor.
It's easy to criticise but we need to look at the bigger picture and be grateful for the BOD's support both financially and otherwise plus the financial support from any of the players or club sponsors. Without them we could be talking on the Championship 1 forum debating how we stood in a 200 large crowd away at Gloucestershire!!!!!(no offence to them)
We are not far off and with 3-4 quality players added next season we will be up there again.

Well said Dave .

Re: Singings for next year.it might improve crowds this year : Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:16 pm  

any sponsor is a good sponsor for the club.
having to play these games until the end of the season is not the clubs fault. the RFL thought up crackpot idea. promotion needs to be brought back for the good of the game.