Re: ""Super Eights " : Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:25 am  

The questions I'd be asking would be

1. Who gave 12 $uper£eague clubs the authority to decide there'll be no $uper Eights ?

2. How many games will we be playing next season and what's the format ?

Re: ""Super Eights " : Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:05 pm  

Looks remarkably like the power grab by (some of) the SL clubs hinted at a few weeks ago by Lenagan whilst there is a power vacuum at The RFL following Wood's departure. There is supposedly a review of the structure going on involving parties from all levels of the 'pro' game that seems to have been simply ignored when making the announcement. As Kevin Nicholas, the Batley Chairman says 'war looms'. Gary Hetherington also appears unimpressed: https://www.therhinos.co.uk/2018/06/12/ ... ue-format/ "Today’s announcement regarding plans for next season appear to be an absurd grab for power for the game by a small group of men who think they own the game. Leeds Rhinos are not party to this and are totally against the creation of a separate Super League executive. Super League clubs voted 7 to 5 at our last meeting on some key issues related to promotion and relegation. The game is in need of strong leadership from Brian Barwick and his Board of Directors at the Rugby Football League, the games governing body, and this announcement should bring a response from everyone connected with the game."

Looks remarkably like the power grab by (some of) the SL clubs hinted at a few weeks ago by Lenagan whilst there is a power vacuum at The RFL following Wood's departure. There is supposedly a review of the structure going on involving parties from all levels of the 'pro' game that seems to have been simply ignored when making the announcement. As Kevin Nicholas, the Batley Chairman says 'war looms'. Gary Hetherington also appears unimpressed: https://www.therhinos.co.uk/2018/06/12/ ... ue-format/ "Today’s announcement regarding plans for next season appear to be an absurd grab for power for the game by a small group of men who think they own the game. Leeds Rhinos are not party to this and are totally against the creation of a separate Super League executive. Super League clubs voted 7 to 5 at our last meeting on some key issues related to promotion and relegation. The game is in need of strong leadership from Brian Barwick and his Board of Directors at the Rugby Football League, the games governing body, and this announcement should bring a response from everyone connected with the game."

Re: ""Super Eights " : Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:27 pm  

The RFL respond: http://www.rugby-league.com/article/526 ... lph-rimmer We are delighted to welcome Robert Elstone back into the sport as Chief Executive of Super League (Europe), he will undoubtedly be an asset to the game. Robert is a talented administrator, is clearly passionate about Rugby League and we very much look forward to working with him as we all look to grow our sport. The Super League is a fantastic competition and as the premier competition of this sport should obviously play a key role in leading and shaping the future of it. "The Rugby Football League has been in discussions with representatives of the Super League since the turn of the year. We have been in regular and broadly constructive meetings with them and Championship and League 1 clubs about potential changes that could strengthen our sport going forward. We would like to make clear that these discussions are still ongoing. No binding decisions have been made across a range of issues, including competition structure, but progress is being made. Further meetings are expected to take place between all parties in due course. As would be expected the Rugby Football League Board has played a leading role in all of these discussions and will continue to do so. Our ambition, as the sport’s governing body, is to have the strongest Super League possible whilst also ensuring all other elements of the game have the opportunity to flourish. We too are determined that the sport of Rugby League grows its profile and maximises its appeal to take advantage of the huge opportunity of hosting the Rugby League World Cup in 2021."

The RFL respond: http://www.rugby-league.com/article/526 ... lph-rimmer We are delighted to welcome Robert Elstone back into the sport as Chief Executive of Super League (Europe), he will undoubtedly be an asset to the game. Robert is a talented administrator, is clearly passionate about Rugby League and we very much look forward to working with him as we all look to grow our sport. The Super League is a fantastic competition and as the premier competition of this sport should obviously play a key role in leading and shaping the future of it. "The Rugby Football League has been in discussions with representatives of the Super League since the turn of the year. We have been in regular and broadly constructive meetings with them and Championship and League 1 clubs about potential changes that could strengthen our sport going forward. We would like to make clear that these discussions are still ongoing. No binding decisions have been made across a range of issues, including competition structure, but progress is being made. Further meetings are expected to take place between all parties in due course. As would be expected the Rugby Football League Board has played a leading role in all of these discussions and will continue to do so. Our ambition, as the sport’s governing body, is to have the strongest Super League possible whilst also ensuring all other elements of the game have the opportunity to flourish. We too are determined that the sport of Rugby League grows its profile and maximises its appeal to take advantage of the huge opportunity of hosting the Rugby League World Cup in 2021."

Re: ""Super Eights " : Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:27 pm  

I've just read Mark Campbell, Featherstone's chairman's view on this. It's on TotalRL.com and is a must read. He is spot on. P.S. I don't know how to put it on here, perhaps someone less thick than me could oblige?

Re: ""Super Eights " : Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:31 pm  

MENU Breaking News • JOIN ROVERS TV FROM AS LITTLE AS £1 PER WEEK! • News Article General ROVERS CHAIRMAN SLAMS PLANS FOR 'RADICAL CHANGE' CHAIRMAN Mark Campbell has released the following statement after a handful of Betfred Super League officials lined up alongside new chief executive Robert Elstone to unveil “radical changes”, which it has been claimed could signal the end of the current Super 8s format as early as this year. Yesterday, at a press conference held at the Halliwell Jones Stadium, Elstone and representatives of Wigan Warriors, St Helens and Warrington Wolves spoke of a desire to create a “better-funded elite competition”. Those involved claimed Elstone’s alleged vision had the backing of 11 of 12 top-flight clubs, which has since been strongly refuted by Leeds Rhinos chief executive Gary Hetherington. Rovers chairman Campbell, who despite acting as a key figure in the newly-formed Championship and League 1 advisory group, was unaware of plans for Super League to yesterday hold a press conference. Campbell said: “At a meeting between the clubs, the Rugby Football League and Super League - less than one month ago - it was agreed no future plans would be discussed publicly until a solution was found for all concerned. “So, as you can imagine, it was a huge shock to yesterday be informed that a press conference had in fact taken place. It was one thing to unveil Robert as Super League’s new chief executive but to make such bold and sweeping statements about the sport’s future was something else. “Robert claims he has a desire to create a “positive working relationship with the RFL”. He has been in the job for two minutes and has already chosen to ignore the agreed consolation process which the RFL, Super League, Championship and League 1 is - or was - playing a part in. Perhaps Robert is just a puppet for Ian Lenagan. “On Ian and some of his quite remarkable comments from yesterday, this is a man who is talking of “radical change” and the start of a new era. Going back to one up, one down. Re-introducing what we call ‘loop fixtures’ to essentially pad out a season. They are nothing more than a random lottery and have proven hugely controversial in the past. We have been there and done that. How is this radical change? If it was so good before then why was it changed to begin with? “Did Brian Barwick, chairman of Super League and the RFL, know about yesterday’s press conference? If not, then why? If so, then why did the man at the top of the organisation not attend this alleged new beginning for elite rugby league? There must be a very good reason. “Where is the RFL in all of this? It appears their so-called figureheads, one of which is supposed to be Brian, and spokespeople are all on holiday - given their total lack of response as a governing body. “From where I am sitting, and the fact I am speaking on behalf of a challenging Championship club is irrelevant, this is about one man attempting to control the game - with the support of owners and chairpeople who are only interested in self preservation and, ultimately, clinging on to their existence. “One of those clubs, in the town in which the sport was born and bred, is this week letting everyone in for free as an act of sheer desperation. Yet this club could survive, be rewarded for failure on and off the field, and continue to tick over in the top flight essentially free of charge. And all because of these “desired” changes. “Those who sat at the top table yesterday and smiled for the cameras want the sport’s key stakeholders to believe this is for the 'good of the game'. Don’t make me laugh. “When the current format was introduced, none of the Super League chairpeople believed a Championship club could even remotely challenge for a place in the top flight, based on central income in the second tier and overall revenue. “However, because the gap has and will continue to narrow, there is a genuine possibility that four current Super League clubs could be relegated as early as this year. There is now too much on the line, hence the desire for immediate change to protect themselves and not the sport as a whole. “The sport of rugby league, now more than ever before, needs its clubs and fans to rise and voice their opinions. This is quite possibly the most pivotal period in rugby league’s history and it would be an out-and-out disgrace for three or four chairpeople to be able to take the sport apart.” Featherstone Rovers RLFC Ltd, The LD Nutrition Stadium, Post Office Road, Featherstone, West Yorkshire, WF7 5EN Telephone: 01977 702386 Email: info@featherstonerovers.co.uk TERMS & CONDITIONS // PRIVACY POLICY // WEBSITE BY GO MEDIA

MENU Breaking News • JOIN ROVERS TV FROM AS LITTLE AS £1 PER WEEK! • News Article General ROVERS CHAIRMAN SLAMS PLANS FOR 'RADICAL CHANGE' CHAIRMAN Mark Campbell has released the following statement after a handful of Betfred Super League officials lined up alongside new chief executive Robert Elstone to unveil “radical changes”, which it has been claimed could signal the end of the current Super 8s format as early as this year. Yesterday, at a press conference held at the Halliwell Jones Stadium, Elstone and representatives of Wigan Warriors, St Helens and Warrington Wolves spoke of a desire to create a “better-funded elite competition”. Those involved claimed Elstone’s alleged vision had the backing of 11 of 12 top-flight clubs, which has since been strongly refuted by Leeds Rhinos chief executive Gary Hetherington. Rovers chairman Campbell, who despite acting as a key figure in the newly-formed Championship and League 1 advisory group, was unaware of plans for Super League to yesterday hold a press conference. Campbell said: “At a meeting between the clubs, the Rugby Football League and Super League - less than one month ago - it was agreed no future plans would be discussed publicly until a solution was found for all concerned. “So, as you can imagine, it was a huge shock to yesterday be informed that a press conference had in fact taken place. It was one thing to unveil Robert as Super League’s new chief executive but to make such bold and sweeping statements about the sport’s future was something else. “Robert claims he has a desire to create a “positive working relationship with the RFL”. He has been in the job for two minutes and has already chosen to ignore the agreed consolation process which the RFL, Super League, Championship and League 1 is - or was - playing a part in. Perhaps Robert is just a puppet for Ian Lenagan. “On Ian and some of his quite remarkable comments from yesterday, this is a man who is talking of “radical change” and the start of a new era. Going back to one up, one down. Re-introducing what we call ‘loop fixtures’ to essentially pad out a season. They are nothing more than a random lottery and have proven hugely controversial in the past. We have been there and done that. How is this radical change? If it was so good before then why was it changed to begin with? “Did Brian Barwick, chairman of Super League and the RFL, know about yesterday’s press conference? If not, then why? If so, then why did the man at the top of the organisation not attend this alleged new beginning for elite rugby league? There must be a very good reason. “Where is the RFL in all of this? It appears their so-called figureheads, one of which is supposed to be Brian, and spokespeople are all on holiday - given their total lack of response as a governing body. “From where I am sitting, and the fact I am speaking on behalf of a challenging Championship club is irrelevant, this is about one man attempting to control the game - with the support of owners and chairpeople who are only interested in self preservation and, ultimately, clinging on to their existence. “One of those clubs, in the town in which the sport was born and bred, is this week letting everyone in for free as an act of sheer desperation. Yet this club could survive, be rewarded for failure on and off the field, and continue to tick over in the top flight essentially free of charge. And all because of these “desired” changes. “Those who sat at the top table yesterday and smiled for the cameras want the sport’s key stakeholders to believe this is for the 'good of the game'. Don’t make me laugh. “When the current format was introduced, none of the Super League chairpeople believed a Championship club could even remotely challenge for a place in the top flight, based on central income in the second tier and overall revenue. “However, because the gap has and will continue to narrow, there is a genuine possibility that four current Super League clubs could be relegated as early as this year. There is now too much on the line, hence the desire for immediate change to protect themselves and not the sport as a whole. “The sport of rugby league, now more than ever before, needs its clubs and fans to rise and voice their opinions. This is quite possibly the most pivotal period in rugby league’s history and it would be an out-and-out disgrace for three or four chairpeople to be able to take the sport apart.” Featherstone Rovers RLFC Ltd, The LD Nutrition Stadium, Post Office Road, Featherstone, West Yorkshire, WF7 5EN Telephone: 01977 702386 Email: info@featherstonerovers.co.uk TERMS & CONDITIONS // PRIVACY POLICY // WEBSITE BY GO MEDIA

Re: ""Super Eights " : Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:01 pm  

I fail to understand how SL clubs in any respect can become an "Elite League" or competition by taking all the money except the loose change and spending it on themselves.

They will just have the same players moving between the same clubs playing at the same average standard but getting paid more for doing it and how many of these are really of an "Elite" standard?

With no jeopardy, at the end of the season they will be back to seeing the same old meaningless games with nothing to play for and no reason to watch them.

With the reserve teams becoming less and less where will the next batch of players come from capable of playing at any level above average never mind "Elite"?

I can't even begin to think what it will be like for everyone outside this "Elite League", it's hard enough now for many
just to survive yet alone be competitive.

Re: ""Super Eights " : Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:28 pm  

An excellent statement from Mark Campbell sums what is Totally rotten about the Game When are the so called Governing Body going to show some guts & leadership im
not holding my breath

Re: ""Super Eights " : Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:04 pm  

bentleyman wrote:

An excellent statement from Mark Campbell sums what is Totally rotten about the Game When are the so called Governing Body going to show some guts & leadership im
not holding my breath

Absolutely, and well done Ian for putting The full statement on.

Re: ""Super Eights " : Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:30 pm  

faxcar wrote:

I fail to understand how SL clubs in any respect can become an "Elite League" or competition by taking all the money except the loose change and spending it on themselves.

They're leaving the loose change ?

Is that because it's down the back of the sofa ?

Re: ""Super Eights " : Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:57 pm  

Reading between the lines, the aim of a certain group of SL bosses is to cut out the 'dross' and let themselves play with each other half a dozen times a season. Add on to this the annual jollies to Toronto, New York, the South of France and Oz and everyone's happy! Aren't they?