Re: Official Discussion: Rent Issue! : Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:44 pm  

Ive suggested dropping admin prices many times over the years but I still do not think there is a chance that they will do it. It is really worrying that when Tony Abbot came in he said that he had a plan that would lead to days where we had crowds of over 10K, however long later and crowds are on the decrease rather than increase and for me the board are totally stumped as to what to do about it.

Re: Official Discussion: Rent Issue! : Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:31 pm  

As someone with 4 kids I struggle to get them interested. As youngsters the rugby bit to them is boring, especially the brand we have played last couple of years. There is no razzmatazz, entertainment etc... Even the food from snack vans etc is excessive. We need to do more to get the kids interested, offer a cheap family ticket for say £25 with a dedicated turnstile and maybe stipulate 2 adults and at least 1 child must use it and give choice to sit or stand....??? Do stuff in the bars like face painting... Kiddies have that for free, dad has a pint... All things that get kids interested and into the ground....?? For me I loved access to the players as a kid, running on the pitch and asking for their tie ups etc...?? It's tough but in my opinion our marketing needs to step up and make the game an attraction....?? Easier said than done I suppose as these things all cost but sometimes you have to spend it to accumulate it.....

Re: Official Discussion: Rent Issue! : Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:34 pm  

Waddy-Fax wrote:

Fact is its too expensive. I know loads not going because it costs a small fortune, its cheaper to go to the Vue cinema and that's saying something.

Factor this with the dire rugby for the past few seasons with the exception of a few games and its not hard to see why crowds have dropped.

How is it too expensive when we paid £17 at Fev last week to stand on the bottom crumbling terrace.

Re: Official Discussion: Rent Issue! : Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:35 pm  

Fax4Life wrote:

How is it too expensive when we paid £17 at Fev last week to stand on the bottom crumbling terrace.

Oh and dare I say it is also £17 in the South Stand to watch FC Halifax Town

Re: Official Discussion: Rent Issue! : Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:45 pm  

Fax4Life wrote:

How is it too expensive when we paid £17 at Fev last week to stand on the bottom crumbling terrace.

So does 2 wrongs make a right so to speak. Its too expensive, I don't give a rats booty how much it is at Fev or Wigan or Barcelona. To take a family of say 4 to rugby its a huge chunk gone, especially away games. So people choose to spend it on other things and Fax lose out. For todays average joe I'd say rugby is on the list of things to go if cash becomes hard, sign of the times.

Re: Official Discussion: Rent Issue! : Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:03 pm  

Waddy-Fax wrote:

So does 2 wrongs make a right so to speak. Its too expensive, I don't give a rats booty how much it is at Fev or Wigan or Barcelona. To take a family of say 4 to rugby its a huge chunk gone, especially away games. So people choose to spend it on other things and Fax lose out. For todays average joe I'd say rugby is on the list of things to go if cash becomes hard, sign of the times.

Its £5 for kids or you can get a Junior pass for £40 which gets them into ALL games home and away.
I know the club should try having a game where admission is less but lower entrance money has to come off their 'bottom line' so you need a crowd say twice as big as you would have if you did not have lower entrance money.
Its a catch 22.
I thought the system was it Hunslet used may work where like some football clubs you pay less for the less attractive games but nobody liked that and you have to chop and change at the turnstiles every other week.

Re: Official Discussion: Rent Issue! : Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:37 am  

The key for now and the future is the children. Make them want to go to the game and they will pester the parents until they get to go. The trick is how do you make kids want to go?
For what it is worth this is my list and I have put ideas already mentioned also. Please add or improve.
The trick is making the parents feel they get value for money as well as making the kids wanting to go every week.
1) print player cards collectable ones, the players picture on the front and facts and stats for that player on the back. Print different pictures for each player or different backs to the cards. Each player carries their own cards on game day or special club related days the kids can ask the player for the cards. This encourages interaction. The kids have to get to the ground early if they want to get cards from players that are playing that week. Injured players or non playing players walk amongst the fans so the kids can get the cards from them. Mark a certain amount of the cards with something special, if you get a full squad of players in the special cards you win a big prise something that will get people talking and want to win. If you get a normal full squad then you get a wall poster.
2)make every home game a small carnival, put stalls out little fun games face painting, bouncy castle, ducking stool with a player or official on it again the key is player interaction.
3) on field skills games not always rugby related, egg and spoon, parent and child 3 legged race.
4) put live music on.
5) put pre matches on, local under 16 teams games on let people see potential players of the future.

Please add to the list.

You have to advertise all over.

Re: Official Discussion: Rent Issue! : Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:33 am  

Over the last two seasons watching the occasional game at Leeds Utd there has been a fluctuation of match ticket prices for the games i've attended, last season for example we went to the Chelsea game in the Carling cup £36 and the Spurs game in the FA cup £20, several league fixtures varying between £24 - £31 and i've noted the games i've been to this season the "away" fans having to pay £36 at Elland rd. I know Leeds Utd isn't exactly the best business model in the district but such a vast price structure/options makes it easy for the casual speccie to pick & choose but i feel our b.o.d. have things correct with their advertised prices for admission. I guess last season's on-field performances did cost the club, myself opting for other interests including going to many gigs, the footy & boxing etc etc. I was also surprised to see £17 over the turnstile gate at Bigboys stadium last week to stand but they also complained about paying ( iirc ) £18 to sit in the Skircoat on seats covered in bird do-do & with obstructed viewing but that was a situation brought about by previous mis-givings. I thought it was good craic stood behind the stix last week in all fairness & i sincerely hope we can do it again but if i ever sit in the new "Scarborough seats end" and there's any sign of bird poo that's it i'll be bouncing lumps of coyal off Rotherhamfevfan, Fevgrinder & Dingong's bonces LOL

I firmly believe the club should stick with the advertised pricing, reducing the price would be suicidal, note Bradford's crowds flocking through the turnstiles now that their cheapo's have dried up ! If we are intending reducing admission prices, maybe we could advertise the fixture as Tonga Vs Italy and market the game for 10 or 12 months. So where are all these people ? Maybe we could sell tickets at a fiver but get people to fill in a form to ask why they can't attend league fixtures ? Let's face it, the last time we hosted the Bulls in that challenge cup tie, there were only about four or five thousand in the ground, a fixture that would have had Thrum Hall packed out, stood on as Fax4life quoted re: Fev's crumbling terraces..... We share fantastic community facilities at the Shay, if i could afford, I'd be on a diners package & on the beers every time i visited the rugby league games at the Shay, i really don't know what the club have to do to get folks in but I do believe it all starts with the product on the field & if our Chris_Smith's with four kids of our fanbase decide it's too boring to watch, we lose the legacy that he and myself were brought up with for the future of these kids missing out on going to watch their team with their dad.
New season, new players, new hope in my eyes.

Re: Official Discussion: Rent Issue! : Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:58 am  

Reducing prices for individual matches will mean less season ticket holders.
The more season ticket holders the more the club can plan for the season.
Perhaps because Fax is my main hobby I feel £17 is fair, I also feel £5 per child is also good value.
Get a junior season ticket and they get free entrance to most away games.
Before some of you get hot under the collar I do see both sides, however Fax is my main hobby, for 25 years we lived in Leicester then Nottingham and hardly missed a game home or away, my self and two Halifaxjohn juniors.
With respect, the way forward is better advertising, try to get the missing crowds back and influence a new generation to look forward to match days.
In my humble opinion.

Re: Official Discussion: Rent Issue! : Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:30 am  

canadiansteve wrote:

The key for now and the future is the children. Make them want to go to the game and they will pester the parents until they get to go. The trick is how do you make kids want to go?
For what it is worth this is my list and I have put ideas already mentioned also. Please add or improve.
The trick is making the parents feel they get value for money as well as making the kids wanting to go every week.
1) print player cards collectable ones, the players picture on the front and facts and stats for that player on the back. Print different pictures for each player or different backs to the cards. Each player carries their own cards on game day or special club related days the kids can ask the player for the cards. This encourages interaction. The kids have to get to the ground early if they want to get cards from players that are playing that week. Injured players or non playing players walk amongst the fans so the kids can get the cards from them. Mark a certain amount of the cards with something special, if you get a full squad of players in the special cards you win a big prise something that will get people talking and want to win. If you get a normal full squad then you get a wall poster.
2)make every home game a small carnival, put stalls out little fun games face painting, bouncy castle, ducking stool with a player or official on it again the key is player interaction.
3) on field skills games not always rugby related, egg and spoon, parent and child 3 legged race.
4) put live music on.
5) put pre matches on, local under 16 teams games on let people see potential players of the future.

Please add to the list.

You have to advertise all over.

Lots of good ideas but it goes back to speculating to accumulate. The club would have to spend money that they seemingly have not got with no guarantee on return.

There is a seemingly easy way around it though, Im sure the club do it, but if they don't I have again mentioned many times what they could do. You want a bouncy castle for cheap or free how do you do it? Give them something in return that costs the club little or no money be that match tickets, bar passes or w/e.