Re: Nobby isn't the right man..... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:21 pm  

Jim Bergerac wrote:

For your information MM, I am Jersey born and bred, and in now way a tax dodger - unlike my curmudgeonly ex father-in-law, Charlie Hungerford.
On your other point - stop being pedantic. I am fully aware that a SL start in 2012 would not be your inaugural season in the promised land. However, if you were to gain admission to the pinnacle of this sport, what would you expect in your first season? 'Holding your own' or, in fact, a challenge for the glistening Super League trophy?! Feel free to nominate a superior candidate for your now available coaching role.

Touchy touchy


I expect our "next" season in SL not to be 2012, end of.

Re: Nobby isn't the right man..... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:25 pm  

marillion man wrote:

Are you telling me you didn't find these occasions exciting ?

that's not what I'm saying........

Championship rugby in front of a few hundred fans in empty stadiums with nothing to play for (promotion wise) where a bizarre form of communism has made everyone equal through the daftest salary cap you could think of together with the impending loss of TV exposure and revenue isn't exciting - sorry.

Bulls at the Shay, nearly beating Cas away in front of big passionate crowds is exciting.
Wembley 87 (and 88) was more exciting than Blackpool
Super League is more exciting than part time Championship

Nobby is a better coach than Matt

Facts

Re: Nobby isn't the right man..... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:34 pm  

If you think SL is more exciting than the Championship then you really don't go to many Super League games. And I'm not talking Saints vs Wigan here, but even playing some of what you might consider some of the bigger sides becomes less significant when you're playing (and generally losing) against those sides every few weeks, with the games in between being against Quins, Crusaders, Catalans etc.

Re: Nobby isn't the right man..... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:37 pm  

Leyther_Matt wrote:

If you think SL is more exciting than the Championship then you really don't go to many Super League games. And I'm not talking Saints vs Wigan here, but even playing some of what you might consider some of the bigger sides becomes less significant when you're playing (and generally losing) against those sides every few weeks, with the games in between being against Quins, Crusaders, Catalans etc.

If my side were in SL (we've never been there, I know), I'd be a heck of a lot more excited at the prospect of playing Leeds at Headingley, or Wigan at the JJB, than I would at the prospect of travelling to Bramall Lane to play Sheffield Eagles in front of 900 people. I think thats what the poster was referring to in terms of the 'excitement' factor.

Re: Nobby isn't the right man..... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:50 pm  

Jim Bergerac wrote:

For your information MM, I am Jersey born and bred, and in now way a tax dodger - unlike my curmudgeonly ex father-in-law, Charlie Hungerford.
On your other point - stop being pedantic. I am fully aware that a SL start in 2012 would not be your inaugural season in the promised land. However, if you were to gain admission to the pinnacle of this sport, what would you expect in your first season? 'Holding your own' or, in fact, a challenge for the glistening Super League trophy?! Feel free to nominate a superior candidate for your now available coaching role.

Rhino?

Re: Nobby isn't the right man..... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:01 pm  

Les West Guitar God wrote:

Rhino?

A good coach he may be, but if you think Karl's sides play attractive, attacking rugby then you can't have seen many Batley or Salford matches - and I'm a Batley supporter.
And if you seriously think he's a better coach than Brian Noble, you must be three sheets to the wind. It is Friday night, I guess.

Re: Nobby isn't the right man..... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:16 pm  

Jim Bergerac wrote:

A good coach he may be, but if you think Karl's sides play attractive, attacking rugby then you can't have seen many Batley or Salford matches - and I'm a Batley supporter.
And if you seriously think he's a better coach than Brian Noble, you must be three sheets to the wind. It is Friday night, I guess.

Spot on. They are from the same mould. Complete the set, get a good kick away and begin the arm wrestle.

We have the ball, you have the ball, we have the ball, you have the ball, we force an error, play in good ball.

However, for me it is not just about how a team plays, it's about how you conduct yourself, the way you interact with plays and your staff, personal behaviours, professional behaviours.. Coaches such as Karl and Noble ouze these traits.

Re: Nobby isn't the right man..... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:23 pm  

urbancarrot wrote:

Spot on. They are from the same mould. Complete the set, get a good kick away and begin the arm wrestle.

We have the ball, you have the ball, we have the ball, you have the ball, we force an error, play in good ball.

However, for me it is not just about how a team plays, it's about how you conduct yourself, the way you interact with plays and your staff, personal behaviours, professional behaviours.. Coaches such as Karl and Noble ouze these traits.

Spot on. I've nothing against Matt Calland, and his reign at Halifax has, in no uncertain terms, been an exciting one. However, with the players he's had at his disposal - in terms of match-winning individual ability - even a very average coach would have been blessed with the ability at his disposal to win games from absolutely nowhere like Fax have often done in the last few seasons. I fear that the flair players he's been lucky to been able to call upon have, to a large extent, allowed him to gloss over a lot of his coaching deficiencies. A coach with the ability to formulate and implement a solid game-plan and structure - like Noble and to a slightly lesser extent, Harrison, would have made Halifax an unbeatable unit IMO.

[Nat (Rugby_Aholic)]

Re: Nobby isn't the right man..... : Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:03 am  

The quality of players at the club is down to MC tho. Worrincy, Patterson and Shad are just a few that weren't standout players when they joined but were coached up very well.

Re: Nobby isn't the right man..... : Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:59 am  

Jim Bergerac wrote:

A good coach he may be, but if you think Karl's sides play attractive, attacking rugby then you can't have seen many Batley or Salford matches - and I'm a Batley supporter.
And if you seriously think he's a better coach than Brian Noble, you must be three sheets to the wind. It is Friday night, I guess.

No Rhino is Nobby's apprentice and Rhino is on record as saying he wouId Iove to coach HaIifax one day