Actually, you are right. I am convinced. After supporting Batley for 40 years I have seen the light and am going to be a permanent fixture at the Shay next season. After all why would anyone want to support anyone else, or play for anyone else other than Halifax.
You just do not get the arrogance thing do you?
From a fans point of view i totally understand where you are coming from Distantdog, once its in your blood then it doesn't matter, you will always support them.
But from a players point of view.....
Why would they want to go to a club who have better facilities, More money to offer ( higher salary cap ) with a coach who has proven himself with that player already, where the pitch is level and one envied by superleague clubs ( well done groundsmen, it was commented on by sky every game they showed this year ) where they play with better players ( although not performed as so most of this year ) where they will be put in the shop window on t.v more, ( been on sky 9 times this year so far ) and the team have been in at least one final in the last 3 years. ( 2009 Grandfinalists & Northern rail 9's Winners, 2010 Grand Finalists and Champions, 2011 Northern Rail Finalists and at least last 4 in playoffs ).
Lets not argue about it though, its not arrogance, the club have proven time and time again that the CLUB achieves more than Batley, However it doesn't make us any better a club to support than any of the others and if you get the attendances up to 2000 per week i am sure the money made would have significant impacts on your club and what you are able to achieve with it, Like most of us Championship clubs finding extra fans is like looking for a 4 leaf clover, neigh on imposible with the current regime in charge.
Yes but the players arn't saying anything nor are the clubs, just a few supporters of Fax.
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"From a fans point of view i totally understand where you are coming from Distantdog, once its in your blood then it doesn't matter, you will always support them."
Of course it matters if it is mentioned that some of your best players are leaving to go to a rival club. If the "fans point of view is understood" then is should be easy to see why I said "no wonder some feel we are being arrogant."
What makes you think that Jones or even Black will be here next season? Everything will be up in the air once the play-offs are over and I'm sure we'll find out what's happening then.
Of course it means "owt", but I don't think it is arrogant to speculate about players wanting to come to Halifax. Karl must like those players, they must enjoy playing for him. It's only natural that if he goes and asks then to follow they will. How many Managers in all sports move on and then go back to their old clubs for players. Surely the players who may follow Karl, think, if he thinks it's the right move, then it might the right move for me.
:MOTOR: Of course it means "owt", but I don't think it is arrogant to speculate about players wanting to come to Halifax. Karl must like those players, they must enjoy playing for him. It's only natural that if he goes and asks then to follow they will. How many Managers in all sports move on and then go back to their old clubs for players. Surely the players who may follow Karl, think, if he thinks it's the right move, then it might the right move for me.
Non of us have any disrespect for Batley.
Absolutely and when John Kear is announced as Batley's coach he will be looking to bring in players from Wakefield.............. OH !!! Hang on a minute.............Maybe Not??????
I would have thought if the Kear appointment does come off a few players who may have considered leaving may think again. Love him or loath him he has won Challenge cups, coached at the highest level for 300games and kept a weak club off the bottom of super league year after year. The players mentioned on here will be close to Rhino but they also feel part of a family at the mount(Tiger has talked of this many times over the last 2 years). We have lost a successful high profile coach and may have replaced him with a more high profile coach with proven track record! You may find it is Fax who are losing their top names to Batley!! Better to be a big fish in a small pond and get paid regularly, when agreed!!!
Actually, you are right. I am convinced. After supporting Batley for 40 years I have seen the light and am going to be a permanent fixture at the Shay next season. After all why would anyone want to support anyone else, or play for anyone else other than Halifax.
You just do not get the arrogance thing do you?
Hey dont get me wrong, i enjoy my trips to batley, and i respect batley as a club and their fans. me expecting players to follow KH to fax has nothing to do with arrogance.
i look at it from a players point of view.
if i was lets say ash Lindsay, and rhino rang me up, offering me a more lucrative contract at fax, (remember a club that has had more sucess over recent years, and has better facilities) i would as a player take the promotion.
more money - better work environment- more chance of further promotion = obvious choice.
i dont for one minute see halifax as a 'better' club than batley.........just at the minute a better option for semi pro RL players.
I would have thought if the Kear appointment does come off a few players who may have considered leaving may think again. Love him or loath him he has won Challenge cups, coached at the highest level for 300games and kept a weak club off the bottom of super league year after year. The players mentioned on here will be close to Rhino but they also feel part of a family at the mount(Tiger has talked of this many times over the last 2 years). We have lost a successful high profile coach and may have replaced him with a more high profile coach with proven track record! You may find it is Fax who are losing their top names to Batley!! Better to be a big fish in a small pond and get paid regularly, when agreed!!!
Just trying to work out that last sentence When I do I will respond.
Just trying to work out that last sentence When I do I will respond.
"paid regularly, when agreed" as in "I get paid monthly, on the 21st of the month.
This whole thread is based on rumours.The rumours last season, from a few Fax fans and RL fans elsewhere were that if you didnt win the GF prizemoney you would be in the s**t. Rumours at the game on Thursday were that some of your players hadnt been paid for a fair few weeks,all rumours mind, could be complete untruths. Tiger came to us from Donny where he wasnt getting paid regularly and he often states how happy he has been at Batley. Rettie has said how happy he is at Batley etc etc
Over the years Halifax have had more sucess than Batley but we are talking next season here. Can any of you deny that if the lads mentioned on here stay at Batley and our new coach adds 3 or 4 good quality signings then there is a chance Batley will be more sucessful than Fax next year? There isnt much between us now so unless they are unhappy why change? The Grass isnt always greener!!