Re: Bulls; does it ever stop : Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:11 pm  

Any publicity is good publicity. Well thats how the saying goes

Re: Bulls; does it ever stop : Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:21 pm  

seen somewhere that a 12 point deduction is being considered

Re: Bulls; does it ever stop : Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:46 am  

Reading the RFL Insolvency policy, 12 points is the highest points sanction available. The ultimate sanction would be revocation of RFL membership meaning any 'new' Bradford would have to reapply for membership and rejoin in League 1. Chaos could reign especially if they then replace them with Toronto (should be Barrow in theory)

Re: Bulls; does it ever stop : Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:08 pm  

DemonUK wrote:

Reading the RFL Insolvency policy, 12 points is the highest points sanction available. The ultimate sanction would be revocation of RFL membership meaning any 'new' Bradford would have to reapply for membership and rejoin in League 1. Chaos could reign especially if they then replace them with Toronto (should be Barrow in theory)

I'm all for Toronto, iff their giving away free travel?

Re: Bulls; does it ever stop : Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:27 pm  

I must admit, I've never been a fan of the Bulls, BUT I wouldn't want to see any Club go to the wall, maybe it is of their doing but nevertheless it will be such a shame to lose them, they have in any ways been such a positive influence to RL .Also I suppose it can be said similar of my Club Leigh Centurions,who not long ago could have been in a similar situation ,luckily we had Derek B to help us , I sincerely hope the Bulls can sort something out and carry on next season, I'm sure the majority of Fax fans feel the same way.

Re: Bulls; does it ever stop : Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:04 pm  

From the outside it could appear the Bulls have been playing the system for a few years now, the damage it does to the fan base and local businesses, all of who will have put money in and seen the club go through this process time and time again, cannot be underestimated.

I say this everytime, but they still haven't bottomed out or realised the situation they are in, as soon as they get the slate wiped clean, they'll go out and pump money into players based on an optimistic financial model thinking they are only a hot streak away from 10k crowds and return a SL.
It'll be Huddersfield in a few years time.

Oh how i miss The Tri Nations, GB, NZ and Aus. With Adminsitration an annual news headline and French, Scottish, Welsh and Irish teams all being propped up by a game with no money in it, i expect more heartache for Fans and less interest outside of the diehards.

P.s Dane owes us nowt, thanks for all the hard work and effort, i honestly thought he would make the Legends board in time, some of these young lads need to come through or we are looking at own goal after own goal in the last 12 months or so. I hope they know what they are doing. Nobodies bigger than the Club i accept, but i cant help feeling they have let Dane down, he gave us everything he had. We need more Danes, not 10% cuts.

Re: Bulls; does it ever stop : Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:12 pm  

To be fair, the 10% pay cut has been reported as being transferred to the bonus for making the top 4. When put that way, it doesn't sound quite as bad for the players.

Purely hypothetical numbers, but let's say a player is on £20k, with a £4k bonus for making the top 4. The new deal is £18k, but with a £6k bonus for making the top 4. Makes more sense to me when looked at in that way, with a bigger incentive to get into the middle-8's - at which point everyone wins.

Re: Bulls; does it ever stop : Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:45 pm  

It doesn't sound so bad when put like that, agreed, but what faith could Dane have that his team mates would get us in the top 4, based on last season, not a lot of faith i would guess, and he doesn't have that many years left playing.

Its not only me that surely noticed Dane and Adam were the only forwards that looked like denting the opposition last season, id sooner have kept them both and released someone else, im not privy to the numbers, but the club almost seem apologetic, having said that id rather be in our shoes than the Bulls, we just cannot afford another year of screw ups and bad decisions, i hope they know what they are doing.

This was a tough call, it clearly was a choice on both sides, i sincerely hope Richard can improve the players and not lose our best young hopes to SL, or we're in a pickle... in the words of Star Treks Bones 'if you're gonna ride in the Kentucky Derby, you don't leave your prize stallion in the Stable'

This has scared me..... ill say it again, i hope they know what they're doing.

Re: Bulls; does it ever stop : Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:47 pm  

3 times in 4 years and still nothing changes. They could have gone PT. But the Club and its Fans think they are better than that. Many Bull Fans mocked us When we went in to Administration or made 10% cut on wages etc. That club should t be in the Championship. They be long in Championship 1. They are a disgrace of a club. BIG iconic club was over 10 years ago.

Re: Bulls; does it ever stop : Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:58 pm  

justthebasicfax wrote:

It doesn't sound so bad when put like that, agreed, but what faith could Dane have that his team mates would get us in the top 4, based on last season, not a lot of faith i would guess, and he doesn't have that many years left playing.

Its not only me that surely noticed Dane and Adam were the only forwards that looked like denting the opposition last season, id sooner have kept them both and released someone else, im not privy to the numbers, but the club almost seem apologetic, having said that id rather be in our shoes than the Bulls, we just cannot afford another year of screw ups and bad decisions, i hope they know what they are doing.

This was a tough call, it clearly was a choice on both sides, i sincerely hope Richard can improve the players and not lose our best young hopes to SL, or we're in a pickle... in the words of Star Treks Bones 'if you're gonna ride in the Kentucky Derby, you don't leave your prize stallion in the Stable'

This has scared me..... ill say it again, i hope they know what they're doing.

Yep, and that's what's the concern. Dane clearly wasn't confident we could make the top 4 (albeit his move is perhaps not just about money - I understand he lives quite close to the Batley ground, and of course he did come from them to us). Top man, and gutted he's gone (going).