Re: Here we go,first off Fev away : Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:53 pm  

Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:

Fuss? I think the system stinks. It does nowt for the game overall. Player opportunities diminish all the time and this system creates even fewer opportunities. The game is on its botty.
There was not as inevitable that fax would use it to the max and I would come chelping on about it after fax fans gave is sheeite about it.
Hudds-shay has this covered

Oh we agree on the system, Im just pointing out we have not completely sold out as we are still running the reserves with a view to promoting from within. We also have to put a winning team on the field or at least the best one that we can possibly get out there so there is a little bit of catch 22 in there. I think everyone knows what Hudds shay view is on it lets just hope he doesnt take his previous stance of not coming to a game if we have DR in as he won't see many games this year.

Re: Here we go,first off Fev away : Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:20 pm  

Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:

I understand all the reasons why you're club is using the system. I genuinely realise this.
What I'm having lots of nibbles at is the hypocracy of your coach and a significant majority of your fans hyperctitical approach to fev using the system last year.
Users of this very forum were quick to point out their perception of the pitfalls of the system and Fev rhinos mantra over and over again...
Richard Marshall himself in a post game interview was having a pop at Fev over it's use. I chuckled at the time as I kind of guessed fax would be in a similar situation one way or another this year.
Now I read this forum and I still chuckle.
An almost full component from cas.... your soul is sold.... you are no more....
#faxtigers

Ah, so when you say something it's having a nibble or tongue in cheek but when we say something it's hypocrisy by the coach and a significant munber of Fax fans even though only about 1 percent of Fax fan even come on the forum.
Remember who used it first to the full, under a number of different coaches and then some forcing others to follow or be left behind.
Your soul was sold and then re sold a long time ago so don't lecture others about hypocrisy Robin.

Re: Here we go,first off Fev away : Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:22 pm  

Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:

This.

Hypocrisy.

Re: Here we go,first off Fev away : Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:32 pm  

Hudd-Shay wrote:

Today's game:-
Warrington reserves 10v16 Halifax reserves. Well done lads. I rest my case.

All this proves is that the reserves can compete against other reserves and not elsewhere as the pre season warm up games showed by losing all 3.
Problem is we aren't playing in a reserves league and before "Righteous Robin" chips in Fev Rhinos proves it just as much as any other club.

Re: Here we go,first off Fev away : Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:36 pm  

faxcar wrote:

Ah, so when you say something it's having a nibble or tongue in cheek but when we say something it's hypocrisy by the coach and a significant munber of Fax fans even though only about 1 percent of Fax fan even come on the forum.
Remember who used it first to the full, under a number of different coaches and then some forcing others to follow or be left behind.
Your soul was sold and then re sold a long time ago so don't lecture others about hypocrisy Robin.

Oh I'm well aware who soul was sold first.
I'm.well aware who used it first.
But when I hear the fax coach and fans heaping bilge upon Fev for the use of DR.... then the same coach and club embrace the system to the max which apart from one odd exception is now (sort of) accepted by the fax brethren.... yes I call that hypocracy.
Trawl these fora for the last 6 years and you won't find a post from me supporting the system.
I'm with hudd-shay and plead not guilty to the hypocracy charge.
#yoursoulissold
#yourarenomore
#faxtigers

Re: Here we go,first off Fev away : Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:39 pm  

faxcar wrote:

All this proves is that the reserves can compete against other reserves and not elesewhere as the pre season warm up games showed by losing all 3.
Problem is we aren't playing in a reserves league and before "Righteous Robin" chips in Fev Rhinos proves it just as much as any other club.

Agreed. I would love to return to a reserves league and do away with DR. It's sheeite. The game is on its botty. There's nowt righteous about it.
The sanctimony of DR has now disappeared as your club fully embrace DR.
At least you run a reserves..... for now...

Re: Here we go,first off Fev away : Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:59 pm  

Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:

Agreed. I would love to return to a reserves league and do away with DR. It's sheeite. The game is on its botty. There's nowt righteous about it.
The sanctimony of DR has now disappeared as your club fully embrace DR.
At least you run a reserves..... for now...

Especially as the use of DR tells them exactly what the coach thinks of them

Re: Here we go,first off Fev away : Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:03 pm  

Mr Dog wrote:

Especially as the use of DR tells them exactly what the coach thinks of them

Which was one of the criticisms levelled by fax at Sharpy last year.... I.e. "What does this do to that lads making way" etc etc etc
It's giving me a preseason chuckle Mr Dog.

Re: Here we go,first off Fev away : Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:35 pm  

Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:

Agreed. I would love to return to a reserves league and do away with DR. It's sheeite. The game is on its botty. There's nowt righteous about it.
The sanctimony of DR has now disappeared as your club fully embrace DR.
At least you run a reserves..... for now...

Sadly DR is here to stay as of now and every club is using it.
Everything is only here for now because although we know there will be a return to some form of licensing no one knows jack all else.

I think our reserves team plays just a small support roll now and a bigger part in preparation for when the door gets shut, that’s when some of these lads will have matured enough to cut it in a first team because it will happen in the next couple of years.

The fact is Fev chose to employ every means available including scrapping a highly talented reserve team and being one of the first to employ DR to the full in an attempt not to stay alive but to get an advantage over their closet rivals to gain a place in SL.
This forced others to make a choice, either follow suite or be left behind.
You yourself described DR as she#ite and if a small number of people took the p##s or heaped she#ite on Fev, it was Fev that dumped on themselves not Fax.
We just shovelled it back and got covered in it while doing so.

Re: Here we go,first off Fev away : Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:59 pm  

Mr Dog wrote:

Especially as the use of DR tells them exactly what the coach thinks of them

This is a constant flawed argument, why?

They don’t need the use of DR to tell them what RM thinks of them in the context of being good enough to play regular first team rugby against the likes of Fev Rhinos this Sunday.

He told them to their faces that they had not done enough in the pre season friendlies and will have told them and be helping them to do better.


It’s made to sound like they have read it in the paper with no dialogue.

However prior to this he also told them, and put it the press that each of these lads had been signed because he rated them and they deserved a contract with a chance to get a first team place at some time in the future.

Rather than take it as an insult and snivel, they either work harder and prove themselves or drift away proving that they weren’t actually up for it.

This applies to the incoming players in the same way.

The reserve lads performance today shows how they are going to react to the Challenges including DR, what about us?