Re: Are you being ' stitched up ' ? : Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:44 am  

Halifax are just been kept in as a fallback, in case another Super League club goes under in the next few months. There are obviously financial concerns still at Crusaders, probably other clubs which we are not aware of. If the rest of the clubs get through till July, we'll still be in the championship next year. Makes sense for the RFL to hedge their bets, but doesn't do our proud club any favours. We're a get-out option, nothing else.

Re: Are you being ' stitched up ' ? : Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:48 am  

Jaffro wrote:

Halifax are just been kept in as a fallback, in case another Super League club goes under in the next few months. There are obviously financial concerns still at Crusaders, probably other clubs which we are not aware of. If the rest of the clubs get through till July, we'll still be in the championship next year. Makes sense for the RFL to hedge their bets, but doesn't do our proud club any favours. We're a get-out option, nothing else.

But would you rather not be told so ?

Re: Are you being ' stitched up ' ? : Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:30 pm  

Jaffro wrote:

Halifax are just been kept in as a fallback, in case another Super League club goes under in the next few months. There are obviously financial concerns still at Crusaders, probably other clubs which we are not aware of. If the rest of the clubs get through till July, we'll still be in the championship next year. Makes sense for the RFL to hedge their bets, but doesn't do our proud club any favours. We're a get-out option, nothing else.

Sounds like what we have been or the past few years if you believe what you here. Rejected in 2008 yet put on constant standby once Crusaders and then Quins were struggling.

Not 100% sure what your trying to play here Starbug, 3 teams bid two were always going to be unsuccesful at this stage so how are they being stitched up?

Re: Are you being ' stitched up ' ? : Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:45 pm  

J20 wrote:

Rejected in 2008 because we went into administration 9 months prior so that would have looked ridiculous had we got a licence.

That's better my friend.

Re: Are you being ' stitched up ' ? : Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:47 pm  

I think what he means is are the RFL seriously considering us for a Super League place or are we being used as part of "the big stick" to ensure the Super League clubs get their house in order.
The way I see it Rimmer said we were ready for Super League and would be in the mix with all other Super League clubs in July . So as we are ready and there are certain Super League clubs who do not fill the criteria it isn`t a case of "do we go up" but it`s who are the RFL going to demote into the Championship. If we don`t get our place then it confirms what everyone thinks of the RFL anyway , that at best they are a bunch of sharletons and at worse a bunch of crooks come July we will all see if they really want any credability in this sport or not.

Re: Are you being ' stitched up ' ? : Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:52 pm  

johnny freeman fan club wrote:

I think what he means is are the RFL seriously considering us for a Super League place or are we being used as part of "the big stick" to ensure the Super League clubs get their house in order.
The way I see it Rimmer said we were ready for Super League and would be in the mix with all other Super League clubs in July . So as we are ready and there are certain Super League clubs who do not fill the criteria it isn`t a case of "do we go up" but it`s who are the RFL going to demote into the Championship. If we don`t get our place then it confirms what everyone thinks of the RFL anyway , that at best they are a bunch of sharletons and at worse a bunch of crooks come July we will all see if they really want any credability in this sport or not.

Agree 100%...Top post!!!!

Re: Are you being ' stitched up ' ? : Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:54 pm  

Fax Missionary wrote:

Just to add to the conspiracy theories, has anyone considered that Widnes's admission might be the pre-cursor for a merger between them and Crusaders? We all know Crusaders are in a precarious position and one which is unsustainable. If they are teetering, it could the reason Fax are being kept in the mix for July.

Not clutching at straws here but consider this;

(1) There is only 26 miles between the two towns
(2) Crusaders attendances are dire and Widnes have a strong fan base thus providing an immediate attendance boost for Wrexham games
(3) The RFL will save face as a presence is maintained in Wales thus supporting future development in the region
(4) Games can be split between Widnes and Wrexham with minimum inconvenience
(5) With Crusaders being a new club there wouldnt be the wholesale anger and rejection encountered the last time this was tried when SL came into existence (remember Calder )
(6) There is a proven succesful model in Aus (St George Illawarra Dragons) and we all know thats where the RFL get most of their ideas from

There is no doubt that Widnes would be dominant partner and the franchise would also have its attractions for Steve O'Conner and the Widnes board as they look to grow and secure the Vikings brand. Personally I think it would be a success and no doubt be used as an RFL model for the future mergers.

Just a thought..................

Makes sense to me which is precisely why the RFL will probably reject your idea.

Re: Are you being ' stitched up ' ? : Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:00 pm  

littlerich wrote:

That's better my friend.

Wasn't debatng the why's but simply the aftermath
Obviously Fax fans will be frustrated with it all but again wasn;t confidence shown on here nor at the club on the day so after hearing you meet all criteria it appears you were further ahead then you believed last week even so maybe there is a real chance in July.

Yes the process is not the besst by any stretch but about being delayed to July etc that was always in place? Yes the 'preparation' line does seem a bit odd delaying a few months but wouldn't you rather be still in with a shout than not at all?

Re: Are you being ' stitched up ' ? : Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:02 pm  

P.s. yes I can just see SO'C putting money into Widnes working hard over 4 years to get the club back into the top flight then happily playing hald our games in Wales and cutting revenue

frankb wrote:

Makes sense to me which is precisely why the RFL will probably reject your idea.

Why don't Leigh stick their hands in for that then?

Re: Are you being ' stitched up ' ? : Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:11 pm  

Just hoping your Chairman overstretches himself

Reel em in thats my motto.