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Re: If not Karl... : Mon May 12, 2014 8:02 pm  
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As was I and we played 747896564959342567 times better rugby than we do now and we lost 20 odd games on the trot!

We played better Rugby under Faz and that's saying something!

I've been absent from here as I have from games for a while because I have become so disillusioned with the way we are playing and not interested at all in going to watch. If the people running the club honestly think people will continue to pay at least £15 to watch boring, predictable, soulless rugby at home and travel away to be served up more of the same then they are naive at best. There are a lot of loyal folk who are involved with the club as well as those that watch them who deserve much better but are frankly being ripped off by Harrison and his tactics this year (and last year if I'm being brutally honest).

This year is absolutely critical in terms of what kind of club Fax want to be in the future shake up of the game. Do we want to be challenging the best and return to our former glories or do we want to be also-rans? Miss out of the top two and we miss out on a massive chunk of cash ,which, if you want to believe the rumour stirrers we desperately need. To be honest, the way our crowds are dipping and have indeed dipped since the current regime have been in charge, the rumours might not be too far off the mark. People talked about the strength of Martin Hall and his recruiting, his major strength was the brand of rugby he, then later Calland implemented. Who would want to come play for Fax the way we are playing now? Not ones that can improve our team that's for sure, plus how long will the decent players we have want to stick around? Outsiders/neutrals will look at the table and think we are dong alright, it flattens us massively.

I may come across as being a bit doom and gloom and slightly unqualified as I haven't been to a game for 2 months, but I'm coming from going to pretty much every game throughout the country from the mid 1990s to last Summer when I started to get bored. I went to EVERY game in 2003 and I enjoyed those games infinitely more than I have the last 18 months. I went to near enough every game through the TA and Faz regime where people called for Faz's head for so called 'boring' rugby, it was a hell of a lot more enjoyable than what we've been served up recently. I don't even need to begin to talk about the Calland era as it's so blatantly obvious.

I've never in my life called for a Fax coach to go but I fear change needs to happen sooner rather than later.


So your the perfect person to judge?
You listen to others and judge?
Haven't seen a game for two months, haven't seen you moderating for longer than that.
Hang up yer boots.
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Re: If not Karl... : Mon May 12, 2014 8:08 pm  
KH brought a number of new players in this season so some money must have been available. Brown has been moved on to Batley for some unknown reason when we were short of halves, other players keep getting dropped and we don't seem to have a stable starting lineup.
KH seems to fallout with players, Rettie has not been one of my favourites as a winger but last season was always in but this year can't seem to get a start. We
Lost Worrincey but have had to go and get Saxton on loan so does n't say much about the other players KH brought in.
Just seems to be a lack of a long term plan and any real cohesion week to week so how the players are going to gel is difficult to see.
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Re: If not Karl... : Mon May 12, 2014 8:12 pm  
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When Matt Calland was coach I attended an open evening where Karl then Batley Manager was one of the guest speakers. Someone asked him if he would like to coach Fax. His courteous response was "you have a coach, but one day, yes I would"
We have a coach now so why not extend that same courtesy until the post is vacant.
I'm not into this "I'm not going until he is gone" surely the club need the revenue to strengthen the team. Stay away and the money is not there to strengthen the squad IF a new coach is appointed.
We even have on another thread "I didn't go" but then he goes on to say what was wrong yesterday.
One bloke behind me said the players aren't fit, this coming from a bloke who looks like he couldn't lift a pencil.
Then this was followed up by another suggesting some players
were more interested in Faxfit.
Boll2cks,
Come on, yes the wheels have fallen off, but they can be put back on very quickly, one thing for sure Fax still need OUR support.
I await :SHOOT:
But hey, that's life.
:DANCE:

HJ I admire your stance but for me due to my financial situation as a sole income household with 4 kids rugby for me is a luxury. I've supported them for 30 odd plus years and is something I pay for not just out of blind loyalty but enjoyment too. Professional sport is part of the entertainment industry and for me I can't see where our once great club delivers on this...... I've said it many times but KH is slowly killing the club with his brand of rugby. You only need to look at crowds to see this. I agree with Mike (Haighy) and what he says. Yes the club needs its fans, although some of the emails I've had from members of the BOD are poor at best. I fear for the club in its current state but whilst it has its head in the sand and in denial I'll not be dipping my hand in to spend my hard earned if I can put it to better use elsewhere.
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Re: If not Karl... : Mon May 12, 2014 8:20 pm  
halifaxjohn wrote:
So your the perfect person to judge?
You listen to others and judge?
Haven't seen a game for two months, haven't seen you moderating for longer than that.
Hang up yer boots.
:DOH:


The writing has been on the wall longer than that, I just saw it incredibly early.
And I can judge having seen much worse Fax teams throughout the years and much more losses and still turning up week after week. I'm tired of watching boring games, end of.

Gladly! Care to take over?
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Re: If not Karl... : Mon May 12, 2014 8:23 pm  
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The writing has been on the wall longer than that, I just saw it incredibly early.
And I can judge having seen much worse Fax teams throughout the years and much more losses and still turning up week after week. I'm tired of watching boring games, end of.

Gladly! Care to take over?


Take over your contribution of nothing?
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Re: If not Karl... : Mon May 12, 2014 8:25 pm  
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Take over your contribution of nothing?


Pretty much like our BOD at the moment then?
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Re: If not Karl... : Mon May 12, 2014 8:27 pm  
So did I Mike but Alas I get accused of negativity. This team has been on the slide as as a playing force from the day Harrison took over. His brand of rugby is poor and all the teams he's coached have played route one boring rugby. He's been found out almost everywhere he's gone and all fans have complained about the same thing we do now. Batley fans were glad to get shut.......
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Re: If not Karl... : Mon May 12, 2014 8:52 pm  
It's just depressing to watch at present Chris
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Re: If not Karl... : Mon May 12, 2014 9:06 pm  
I have gone from sponsoring players and giving money to the club to the point where I just dont care anymore. I doubt I am alone. I dont think its just down to Karl and his coaching. I feel the club has gone stale and the fire and passion has gone out. I admit I am a negative person more than a positive one. But I think the club is in a serious rut and drastic action needs to be taken soon. Its more than just changing the Coach as well. I feel the problems at the moment cover a range of issues both on and off the field. If its not careful this club will end up struggling to survive. It doesnt need stupid gimmicks like free holidays or people making stupid statements. The club needs to work out what it wants and how it will achieve it with a framework of how it will get there. Right now it is drifting aimlessly. If people dont like what I put or think I am wrong then fair enough. But thats just how I feel right now
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Re: If not Karl... : Mon May 12, 2014 9:09 pm  
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I have gone from sponsoring players and giving money to the club to the point where I just dont care anymore. I doubt I am alone. I dont think its just down to Karl and his coaching. I feel the club has gone stale and the fire and passion has gone out. I admit I am a negative person more than a positive one. But I think the club is in a serious rut and drastic action needs to be taken soon. Its more than just changing the Coach as well. I feel the problems at the moment cover a range of issues both on and off the field. If its not careful this club will end up struggling to survive. It doesnt need stupid gimmicks like free holidays or people making stupid statements. The club needs to work out what it wants and how it will achieve it with a framework of how it will get there. Right now it is drifting aimlessly. If people dont like what I put or think I am wrong then fair enough. But thats just how I feel right now


I agree with that statement. Not heard anything regarding players resigning for next season yet either and a whole host of our squad are out of contract this season.
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