Re: Dual Registration : Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:14 pm  

mr t hall wrote:

Think DR is on borrowed time.There's a growing outcry at lack of super league reserve sides from respected sources Lee Briers for example.Also it can't be lost on clubs with reserve sides,that the 4 clubs that have one,Saints,Wigan,Wire and Hull make up the top 4 english clubs in s/l.

has to be got rid of at end of season. also make it compulsory SL teams have reserve sides.

Re: Dual Registration : Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:53 pm  

Fev take too much advantage to this d/r or loan system quite a few leeds players every week. didnt that abdull from hull play against us aswell as craven from widnes at blackpool taking the mickey really get your own squad instead of using everyone elses.......

Re: Dual Registration : Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:56 pm  

DR is a joke and I'm proud of what we have achieved with our own squad.

But...... Don't we DR players to other clubs and we've just had our season ended by a team that used DR better than we didn't.....

Re: Dual Registration : Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:47 am  

freddies wig wrote:

DR is a joke and I'm proud of what we have achieved with our own squad.

But...... Don't we DR players to other clubs and we've just had our season ended by a team that used DR better than we didn't.....

I refer to gingdong's post earlier. He pointed out rovers were happy urge all clubs outside of sl to opt out of the dual reg system.
However, if just one club uses it another will use it in an attempt to balance out that "advantage". Though hunslet donny swinton and york fans might disagree as to exactly what advantage fielding dual reg players gave them.
Best scenario is that we all say no. I doubt it will happen.
Next year fax are likely to have reduced funding = a leaner squad.
I dont know what the fax club approach to using dual reg will be next year.... but if using quality SL players in your team that actually gets you those points lost this season in Cumbria and v oldham.. do you think they will be tempted to use it more extensively.... or do you think they might opt out in 2017?
I hate the system.

Re: Dual Registration : Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:45 am  

I don't like DR at all, but.....

You take a clear stance and don't use it and tell your fans
Or
You take a clear stance and do use it and tell your fans.

Fax appear to be in the second category and in that case our use of it has not produced any clear benefits. Bad coaches choices?

Re: Dual Registration : Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:52 am  

Here's the thing: there's the thick end of half a million prize money difference between doing very well and doing quite well in the Championship nowadays. Regardless of whether you agree with DR or not, if them's the rules, and you're the chairman pumping thousands upon thousands into your club, you're going to do whatever you can within the rules to give your team the best chance of winning one of those bigger prize money chunks.

And to the fella who said get your own squad rather than using everyone else's, what about Salford's Sarsfield and Castleford's Boyle, whilst the likes of Saxton/Smeaton/Maneely/Robinson etc were farmed off elsewhere?

To be honest I don't think there's a team in the Championship that can get holier-than-thou over DR. Every team has used it I think (inwardly or outwardly), hardly any fans like it, but it's what we're stuck with at the moment.

Re: Dual Registration : Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:57 am  

There is a big difference between the loan market-which has universal approval-and DR.

Re: Dual Registration : Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:15 am  

mr t hall wrote:

There is a big difference between the loan market-which has universal approval-and DR.

People keep saying this, but in practice is there that much difference? I know at one stage, at least, Sarsfield's deal was a week-to-week and he could be recalled at any time. I also seem to remember Craven suddenly being recalled by Widnes when he was with you last season.

Re: Dual Registration : Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:21 am  

Take our situation for example,Marshall controls what he wants on loans either 1/3 months or extended with recall clauses.Yes they can be a gamble,but that's always been the case.What we don't want is HKR telling us we have to play Robinson and Cox on sunday as they need a game.

Re: Dual Registration : Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:30 am  

Loans are different. The player has to be there at least 28 days. The club knows he's available.

DR - you don't know til Thursday at best.

It's a nonsense - return to the system that stood us in good stead for over 100 years.