Re: Bulls v Fax v Leythers v Fev. Referee The RFL : Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:43 am  

Under the 'rules' if you are not in SL the you can't apply for 3 years if you have been insolvent etc. As the Bulls will be a new co. that probably won't apply to them, OR is they are classed as the same club and in SL then it won't apply to them either.
Win, win for Bulls, can't see an issue with it really.

Re: Bulls v Fax v Leythers v Fev. Referee The RFL : Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:54 am  

Starbug wrote:

Not forgetting Mr Khan's reported 6 Million pound investement into Odsal

Does anybody seriously think the RFL are willing to risk losing that , to put one of us into SL ?

We are being ' set up '

Starbug,

You are so spot on

However what choice do Fax/Leigh/Fev/Sheffield have but to apply though? Since if they don't all it can do is harm any application in 2014, when the next set of licences come round. Unless all these clubs all turn round and say NO - not applying then the ones that don't will potentially be at a disadvantage in 2 years time, and therefore they all will do the bidding that SL want and as you say "justify" their decision to keep Northern in SL.

Unfortunately every club is in it for themselves (even at our level, where we have Fev fans belittling Fax, Fax fans belittling Leigh and Leigh fans belittling Fev, etc. ). When the reality is for all our clubs to survive and prosper we should all be pulling together in the same direction trying to help each other. For example if all the championship clubs went on mass to a single clothing manufaturer for replica kits to sell I wonder how much better a deal we could get with the combined barganing rather than doing it a individual clubs?

Re: Bulls v Fax v Leythers v Fev. Referee The RFL : Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:08 pm  

FevGrinder wrote: Starbug, You are so spot on However what choice do Fax/Leigh/Fev/Sheffield have but to apply though? Since if they don't all it can do is harm any application in 2014, when the next set of licences come round. Unless all these clubs all turn round and say NO - not applying then the ones that don't will potentially be at a disadvantage in 2 years time, and therefore they all will do the bidding that SL want and as you say "justify" their decision to keep Northern in SL. Unfortunately every club is in it for themselves (even at our level, where we have Fev fans belittling Fax, Fax fans belittling Leigh and Leigh fans belittling Fev, etc. ). When the reality is for all our clubs to survive and prosper we should all be pulling together in the same direction trying to help each other. For example if all the championship clubs went on mass to a single clothing manufaturer for replica kits to sell I wonder how much better a deal we could get with the combined barganing rather than doing it a individual clubs? We've put out a (slightly cynical!) statement saying we're not getting involved. http://www.sheffieldeagles.com/index.ph ... Itemid=490 For a start there would be no point because we're simply not ready (playing staff, crowd size, overall infastructure), work has been going into launching a credible bid for the 2015 round of licenses since the day we qualified for the grand final last season, and the club feels that launching one now would be impractical towards the bid for the next full round of licensing. If Fax/Fev/Leigh did bid to play in SL next season I'd back them, but there's no way they're going to get rid of Bradford, imho.

FevGrinder wrote: Starbug, You are so spot on However what choice do Fax/Leigh/Fev/Sheffield have but to apply though? Since if they don't all it can do is harm any application in 2014, when the next set of licences come round. Unless all these clubs all turn round and say NO - not applying then the ones that don't will potentially be at a disadvantage in 2 years time, and therefore they all will do the bidding that SL want and as you say "justify" their decision to keep Northern in SL. Unfortunately every club is in it for themselves (even at our level, where we have Fev fans belittling Fax, Fax fans belittling Leigh and Leigh fans belittling Fev, etc. ). When the reality is for all our clubs to survive and prosper we should all be pulling together in the same direction trying to help each other. For example if all the championship clubs went on mass to a single clothing manufaturer for replica kits to sell I wonder how much better a deal we could get with the combined barganing rather than doing it a individual clubs? We've put out a (slightly cynical!) statement saying we're not getting involved. http://www.sheffieldeagles.com/index.ph ... Itemid=490 For a start there would be no point because we're simply not ready (playing staff, crowd size, overall infastructure), work has been going into launching a credible bid for the 2015 round of licenses since the day we qualified for the grand final last season, and the club feels that launching one now would be impractical towards the bid for the next full round of licensing. If Fax/Fev/Leigh did bid to play in SL next season I'd back them, but there's no way they're going to get rid of Bradford, imho.

[Dick Jones]

Re: Bulls v Fax v Leythers v Fev. Referee The RFL : Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:18 pm  

E.S.O wrote: We've put out a (slightly cynical!) statement saying we're not getting involved. http://www.sheffieldeagles.com/index.ph ... Itemid=490 For a start there would be no point because we're simply not ready (playing staff, crowd size, overall infastructure), work has been going into launching a credible bid for the 2015 round of licenses since the day we qualified for the grand final last season, and the club feels that launching one now would be impractical towards the bid for the next full round of licensing. If Fax/Fev/Leigh did bid to play in SL next season I'd back them, but there's no way they're going to get rid of Bradford, imho. Thats a good call and if all other clubs pulled together and said if Bradford lose their place, we will submit a bid, otherwise its a pointless excercise as theres only one winner.

E.S.O wrote: We've put out a (slightly cynical!) statement saying we're not getting involved. http://www.sheffieldeagles.com/index.ph ... Itemid=490 For a start there would be no point because we're simply not ready (playing staff, crowd size, overall infastructure), work has been going into launching a credible bid for the 2015 round of licenses since the day we qualified for the grand final last season, and the club feels that launching one now would be impractical towards the bid for the next full round of licensing. If Fax/Fev/Leigh did bid to play in SL next season I'd back them, but there's no way they're going to get rid of Bradford, imho. Thats a good call and if all other clubs pulled together and said if Bradford lose their place, we will submit a bid, otherwise its a pointless excercise as theres only one winner.

Re: Bulls v Fax v Leythers v Fev. Referee The RFL : Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:19 pm  

FevGrinder wrote:

Starbug,

You are so spot on

However what choice do Fax/Leigh/Fev/Sheffield have but to apply though? Since if they don't all it can do is harm any application in 2014, when the next set of licences come round. Unless all these clubs all turn round and say NO - not applying then the ones that don't will potentially be at a disadvantage in 2 years time, and therefore they all will do the bidding that SL want and as you say "justify" their decision to keep Northern in SL.

Unfortunately every club is in it for themselves (even at our level, where we have Fev fans belittling Fax, Fax fans belittling Leigh and Leigh fans belittling Fev, etc. ). When the reality is for all our clubs to survive and prosper we should all be pulling together in the same direction trying to help each other. For example if all the championship clubs went on mass to a single clothing manufaturer for replica kits to sell I wonder how much better a deal we could get with the combined barganing rather than doing it a individual clubs?

Just dont go there

Re: Bulls v Fax v Leythers v Fev. Referee The RFL : Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:56 pm  

Starbug wrote:

But this isnt a round of licensing, in a statement from the Leigh Chairman read out at a fans forum 3 weeks ago, he mentioned this ' process ' and in part of that he suggested that Fev would struggle because their stadium wasnt suitable , while not incorrect it was IMO a tactless thing to say, how happy would he be if the Fev Chairman suggested Leigh werent ready given we needed the RFL to pay our tax bill directly out of our central funds

Things like this drive a wedge between clubs and fans, clubs and fans that should be working together, not comparing our shortcomings in an effort to score points against each other, that should remain on the pitch only

All your chairman has done there is show he isnt upto to speed with things, our stadium is being renovated as we speak and will be fit for purpose by the start of next season with over 5k covered seats and a 9k capacity, a maximum size pitch and my m8 has today measured up for some purpose built vip units complete with kitchen equipment. Its our ground and all the proseeds from food and drink will be ours. I would say the stadium that your chairman says will keep us out is our main assett. he really should keep up

Re: Bulls v Fax v Leythers v Fev. Referee The RFL : Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:00 pm  

gingdong wrote:

and my m8 has today measured up for some purpose built vip units complete with kitchen equipment.

I had my house measured up for a conservatory about 3 years ago. I still haven't had one built.

Re: Bulls v Fax v Leythers v Fev. Referee The RFL : Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:01 pm  

gingdong wrote:

All your chairman has done there is show he isnt upto to speed with things, our stadium is being renovated as we speak and will be fit for purpose by the start of next season with over 5k covered seats and a 9k capacity, a maximum size pitch and my m8 has today measured up for some purpose built vip units complete with kitchen equipment. Its our ground and all the proseeds from food and drink will be ours. I would say the stadium that your chairman says will keep us out is our main assett. he really should keep up

Thought the min capacity had to be 12k?

Re: Bulls v Fax v Leythers v Fev. Referee The RFL : Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:24 pm  

gingdong wrote:

All your chairman has done there is show he isnt upto to speed with things, our stadium is being renovated as we speak and will be fit for purpose by the start of next season with over 5k covered seats and a 9k capacity, a maximum size pitch and my m8 has today measured up for some purpose built vip units complete with kitchen equipment. Its our ground and all the proseeds from food and drink will be ours. I would say the stadium that your chairman says will keep us out is our main assett. he really should keep up

My point being he shouldnt have passed comment. It was tactless, wether he is right or not is irrelivant

Re: Bulls v Fax v Leythers v Fev. Referee The RFL : Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:33 pm  

See what the RFL have done?

Divide and conquer