Re: Breaking: RFL call off vote on Super League restructure : Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:16 am  

freddies wig wrote:

Absolutely Griff. But, do you not think, that the years "licencing" have made the gap far too wide - the Championship clubs need loads of cash and the SL clubs cant afford a reduction? What a mess has been made just to get Crusaders into SL.

As an aside, Smokey is suggesting on the VT that championship clubs run as a competition involving 18-20 year olds that cant get a game in SL and as clubs developing the youth until ready for SL. I'm sure we all agree, our crowds would rocket with people wanting to pay £16-18 to watch that. Only a massive, clueless d!!k would suggest that!

I only hope my interest in RL dies before I have to suffer the fate of my club being destroyed so Wigan can play Saints 6 times a year

Licensing hasn't made the gap too wide. It's the lack of sufficient funds to properly support the game below $uperleague.

On the one hand, the game needs to pay enough to stop players drifting out to RU and the NRL, on the other, it needs to support its own pyramid.

And, of course, there aren't enough clubs to fit existing $uperleague criteria. Probably only eight or ten deserve to be there.

Re: Breaking: RFL call off vote on Super League restructure : Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:27 am  

griff1998 wrote:

Easy to say, but to make that work, you need to somehow even out the clubs finances so that clubs can compete when they're promoted and can copewhen they're relegated.

P+R isn't a panacea in itself. It has to be linked with the cash.

Your right Griff and the intention was to try and distribute cash across the sport but they want it for themselves in direct contradiction to reviews such as the Watkins report and input from Brian Barwick a sporting giant.

Let them have all the cash it won't stop some overspending with the same problems.

Rugby league is like an house where everything underground has been neglected for years, what you see above might look okay at a quick glance and if you gave it a fresh coat of paint it might look fine but with crumbling foundations how long can it last.

They still don't get it that it that no matter how much money they keep to themselves it will be the same clubs with the same players playing the same standard of rugby while everyone else slowly but surely dies of starvation if there aren't changes.

Josh Charnley will still be running down the wing but with more money in his pocket and if he did move on someoe else would take his place like they did with Jason, Chris Ashton, Joel Tompkins etc.

They don't like it when they have someone come and take their better players but think nothing of doing the same to us, such is their ignorance of sport in general and their arrogance in Rubgy league specifically.

Super League or getting there is not the point for me it's the chance to progress and I fear for the Championship clubs if it stays the same, if I thought we would be okay then they can stick SL and everything that goes with it.

Re: Breaking: RFL call off vote on Super League restructure : Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:06 pm  

The other point is how much it costs to stage games these days with various Health and Safety pronouncements by the RFL and the Government. Not to mention that everything is done so much more professionally these days.

All costs money.

Re: Breaking: RFL call off vote on Super League restructure : Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:12 pm  

griff1998 wrote:

The other point is how much it costs to stage games these days with various Health and Safety pronouncements by the RFL and the Government. Not to mention that everything is done so much more professionally these days.

All costs money.

As will the running of the game by the Super League clubs, who will pick up the tab for that.

They will want more money for taking control of something motivated by not having enough money in the first place.

My brain hurts , anyone fancy a game of darts or something.

Re: Breaking: RFL call off vote on Super League restructure : Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:15 pm  

griff1998 wrote:

Easy to say, but to make that work, you need to somehow even out the clubs finances so that clubs can compete when they're promoted and can copewhen they're relegated.

P+R isn't a panacea in itself. It has to be linked with the cash.

I agree that it's far from easy, if the top end of SL are intent on pushing something through its now or never, there would be a chance of getting the rank and file SL clubs, the one who are never going to be competitive onside, and then start again. Then the big four can play each other over and over again, or if they really want to chase the money they could apply to join the RU.

Just think how Rugby League could be the unique sport that puts competition above all else. Idealistic I know.

Re: Breaking: RFL call off vote on Super League restructure : Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:22 pm  

The key for me is, is a competitive Championship game worth watching? So what if at the top level the game slides a bit, and players are lost, the game is greater than the individual players, the honesty, the endeavour allied with the skill that exists in the slower championship.

More money for Saints, Wigan etc, where will it end up, with the players it does in all the sports, look at the millions pouring into football, it's not done the clubs a lot of good they have just passed it on to the players, RL won't be any different if they do get more money. Live within our means, stop trying to compete with Aus or RU who have left us behind I'm afraid and build a good competition thats something no other game can stop us doing if that is our goal.

Re: Breaking: RFL call off vote on Super League restructure : Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:42 pm  

Freedom of Information Act has enabled the public to see who owes rent down't Shay. 52,000 is owed by Fax as of September 25th.

Re: Breaking: RFL call off vote on Super League restructure : Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:50 pm  

Realist Shay wrote:

Freedom of Information Act has enabled the public to see who owes rent down't Shay. 52,000 is owed by Fax as of September 25th.

Random claptrap. They let you out again?

Re: Breaking: RFL call off vote on Super League restructure : Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:58 pm  

http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/h ... -1-6134778 There you have it Lenneghan wants it all for SL, the same 14 teams with one up one down the very thing that failed and led to licencesing in the first place. Where has he been for the last few years, lets not try something new lets go back to something old that failed. He wants to run Super league.

http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/h ... -1-6134778 There you have it Lenneghan wants it all for SL, the same 14 teams with one up one down the very thing that failed and led to licencesing in the first place. Where has he been for the last few years, lets not try something new lets go back to something old that failed. He wants to run Super league.

Re: Breaking: RFL call off vote on Super League restructure : Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:04 pm  

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