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Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:50 pm  
I don't think I have ever heard anyone else argue AGAINST developing and improving something.

Enough said really, how can you have a sensible debate with reasoning like that.
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Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:08 pm  
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I don't think I have ever heard anyone else argue AGAINST developing and improving something.

Enough said really, how can you have a sensible debate with reasoning like that.


And you're quite right, there is always something that can be improved. But not to the extent planned and it can be done under council ownership.
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Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:30 pm  
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And you're quite right, there is always something that can be improved. But not to the extent planned and it can be done under council ownership.


I would have thought that was for the Councilors to decide , I cannot see them being dictated to as to what they are going to have to do down there .
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Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:45 pm  
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I would have thought that was for the Councilors to decide , I cannot see them being dictated to as to what they are going to have to do down there .

And I'm sure when the time comes they will deliver, as they have done with the North Stand.
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Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:47 pm  
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And you're quite right, there is always something that can be improved. But not to the extent planned and it can be done under council ownership.


At the end of the day though Geoff you and I have no real say in the matter, it's not our money and even if we did have why would our prefferences be any better or more acceptable to anyone other than ourselves.
It's just what we think based on our own bias and prejudices.

Back to simple logic again and down to choices depending on if the council decide to sell or not.

Option 1. The council keep ownership and it will not improve much more than it is now as they do not have the money, nor will it generate any other income from other uses or areas.

Option 2. Reactiv takes ownership and develope it well beyond what it is now and open up a number of opportunities to generate income from other uses or areas.

These stadiums can and need to be so much more than just the home of the local sporting teams so don't just think of development and improvement in those terms, those days are in the past if you want to stay alive in 2013 and beyond.

Option 3. Some unknown party with unknown intentions takes ownership.

Make your choice with a balanced unbiased view.
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Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:18 pm  
I walked past today and the Skircoat Road side always looks a mess and then there are all the trees inside the ground, I don't know of many grounds that have this. There is potential to make the ground generate a decent income but it needs investment from a party that really does want to do rather than just do the basics which the council are doing.
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Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:30 pm  
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And I'm sure when the time comes they will deliver, as they have done with the North Stand.


If you really are not Bubba, same IP address then you are a bubberette.

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Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:35 pm  
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At the end of the day though Geoff you and I have no real say in the matter, it's not our money and even if we did have why would our prefferences be any better or more acceptable to anyone other than ourselves.
It's just what we think based on our own bias and prejudices.

Back to simple logic again and down to choices depending on if the council decide to sell or not.

Option 1. The council keep ownership and it will not improve much more than it is now as they do not have the money, nor will it generate any other income from other uses or areas.

Option 2. Reactiv takes ownership and develope it well beyond what it is now and open up a number of opportunities to generate income from other uses or areas.

These stadiums can and need to be so much more than just the home of the local sporting teams so don't just think of development and improvement in those terms, those days are in the past if you want to stay alive in 2013 and beyond.

Option 3. Some unknown party with unknown intentions takes ownership.

Make your choice with a balanced unbiased view.


At the meeting TA said he would be able to make money from the Shay from day 1. Can't remember his exact wording but that was the jist of what he said. If that is true then does that not mean that he knows something that nobody else does about making money from the ground?
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Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:37 pm  
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If you really are not Bubba, same IP address then you are a bubberette.

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We both know you've made that up, John. Not sure what you've achieved from it?
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Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:26 pm  
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If you really are not Bubba, same IP address then you are a bubberette.

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What`s a bubberette ? is it that little group that flounced out as the meeting ended?
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