Re: Halifax 25 Barrow 43 : Sun May 01, 2011 6:55 pm  

I do have sympathy for MC because I do believe the major problem is a lack of commitment from the players when it comes to defence. Barrow defended brilliantly at times this afternoon when the pressure was on - whereas our players just expect someone else to bend his back when defending our line.

What I find unbelievable is why our players always get outenthused. If we had started the season like we did two years ago, and then given Bradford a good game, it would have made our Super League application in July much more compelling. As it is, why should we be given a chance in Super LEague when we aren't competitve in the Championship and, as a consequence, our crowds are way too low.

The fact that we are losing games simply due to lack of effort (because that is what it is) shows the mentality of some of the players. They don't care about the opportunity they are throwing away, the fact they are letting down the fans or that they are probably going to cost MC his job (perhaps that is what they want at the expense of everything else). You'd think a bit of self respect may come into it, but alas no.

Unfortunately, after the Widnes debacle, I can't see where MC can take this. He's said the strong words, dropped a few players, but it isn't improving. He clearly has either lost the dressing room or is unable to motivate his team to play to the levels they can and should be achieving.

Whilst the players are primarily to blame, I'm afraid it is the coach who is responsible. For someone who has got us to 2 GF's in 2 seasons, won one of them and taken a pay cut to help the club out at the start of this season, it really is extremely sad that we are now in this position.

Re: Halifax 25 Barrow 43 : Sun May 01, 2011 7:03 pm  

Both Jones and Holroyd were guilty or coming out of the line and misreading Barrows play. In fact on one try Jones seed to fly out and create the gap for them and ended up chasing round like a headless chicken, when if he'd stayed in a line they had no where to go. As for the last try, the less said the better, what Holroyd was doing I've no idea. But again I ask why have both halfbacks defending the same side.

Re: Halifax 25 Barrow 43 : Sun May 01, 2011 7:10 pm  

I remember the headless chicken try. I think you're being a but unfair to Jones as I genuinely believe he was being chased by a wasp. I can see no other reason for him running about wildly with his hands waving all over the place with absolutely no regard to what was happening around him on the rugby pitch.

Re: Halifax 25 Barrow 43 : Sun May 01, 2011 7:24 pm  

Cassandra wrote:

Back in Jan.- Feb. not all the fans thought we had signed a bad squad,( unless most of them were lieing at the time). No player who we signed at the time became a bad player over night, so it's something in the water down at the Shay the ground staff or somebody who can't get the best out of the players or see what's going wrong with the team under his control or the lack of it.

I can't remeber if i posted it on here or not but when I was talking to a mate about the squad this year he were saying we've made some good signings and he were sayings its gonna be another good season. While i agreed we had made some good signings there not really replacements for the players that have left.

Re: Halifax 25 Barrow 43 : Sun May 01, 2011 7:25 pm  

gizempo wrote:

Both Jones and Holroyd were guilty or coming out of the line and misreading Barrows play. In fact on one try Jones seed to fly out and create the gap for them and ended up chasing round like a headless chicken, when if he'd stayed in a line they had no where to go. As for the last try, the less said the better, what Holroyd was doing I've no idea. But again I ask why have both halfbacks defending the same side.

They were on opposite wings all the game until Haley went off. The left wing defended by the No.28 who ever he was left PW no chance at all to defend his line, as there was always an overlap as soon as the No 28 stood and watched . 6 or 7 tries in two games down the same wing ( could be more?)tells me something,does'nt it you?

Re: Halifax 25 Barrow 43 : Sun May 01, 2011 7:29 pm  

halifax rlfc 4 eva wrote:

I can't remeber if i posted it on here or not but when I was talking to a mate about the squad this year he were saying we've made some good signings and he were sayings its gonna be another good season. While i agreed we had made some good signings there not really replacements for the players that have left.

I reiterate good-fair players DO NOT become bad ones overnight.

Re: Halifax 25 Barrow 43 : Sun May 01, 2011 7:48 pm  

Now you know how we have felt at Widnes in the last few years.

Re: Halifax 25 Barrow 43 : Sun May 01, 2011 7:55 pm  

OFFTHECUFF wrote:

Now you know how we have felt at Widnes in the last few years.

we are looking good for promotion in july on our current form. o'connor must of give us some tips and matt has his tatics spot on

Re: Halifax 25 Barrow 43 : Sun May 01, 2011 8:03 pm  

1 Leigh 7 6 1 0 248 144 20
2 Featherstone 7 5 1 1 258 132 17
3 Batley 8 5 0 3 198 166 16
4 Sheffield 6 5 0 1 183 120 15
5 Widnes 8 4 0 4 243 210 13
6 Barrow 7 3 0 4 205 193 12
7 Hunslet 7 3 1 3 152 164 11
8 York 7 2 1 4 124 260 8
9 Dewsbury 7 2 0 5 139 196 7
10 Halifax 7 1 0 6 193 245 6
11 Toulouse 7 1 0 6 94 207 4

Were in the top 10 yayyyyy and we've conceded less than Leigh have scored, I'd say theres plenty to be positive about.
1 Were not bottom
2 We dont have the worst defence in the league
3 The side immediately above us are poor

I'm not at all concerned about the fact the only side below us are French and have already beaten us, and will be spared execution

Re: Halifax 25 Barrow 43 : Sun May 01, 2011 8:07 pm  

lmw wrote:

we are looking good for promotion in july on our current form. o'connor must of give us some tips and matt has his tatics spot on

Got to be in mate.Hey i know it is hurtful, but look on the brightside maybe Superleague. To be honest i think the cap is too low in the Championship as helps teams with low crowds.