Re: SUPER LEAGUE?! : Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:56 pm  

Norman Bates wrote:

This Wakey stuff is bollox, they won't /can't just put them back in cos Cas can't build a ground.

If it does happen what would the legal position for Fax as we have ticked all relevant boxes, probably more than Wakey.

It could well be the last straw for me as well.

I would say the legal issues regarding such a scenario is why the above is complete rubbish. All Clubs signed the franchise application form and agreed to it and the set pattern of it being a 3 year thing was in place. They also signed off saying they couldn't and won't challenge the issue legally.

An agreement between Wakey, Cas, the RFL or whatever this weird scenario is claiming has the square root of **** all to do with all the licensing agreements between the teams and therefore no where will it say Halifax (or any other Club) won't be allowed to legally pursue it. Cas will win the 3 year license they put forward for, do you really think if they don't have full funding etc they'll just go 'fair enough' after a year and drop out?

There's more chance Swinton getting a Super League place than that happening.

Re: SUPER LEAGUE?! : Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:11 pm  

Part quote.
"I would say the legal issues regarding such a scenario is why the above is complete rubbish. All Clubs signed the franchise application form and agreed to it and the set pattern of it being a 3 year thing was in place. They also signed off saying they couldn't and won't challenge the issue legally."
end quote.

I can't see any legal challenge either but on the point of all the clubs signing something should that not make it binding on all parties involved??
If that is so then how can the RFL change things at will without getting approval from all the parties involved.
The signees would be directly affected and the other clubs from the championship although not actually signing anything they are going to be indirectly affected and I would think the negative implications for the latter are potentially massive if not terminal.

Couple that with the strong rumour about having the Sky coverage of the championship games under threat how will potential sponsers / investers be got on board.

I just cannot understand how or why the RFL would want to kill off things below Super League.
How does that help the game.
Where will the up and coming players of the future come from,whilst the youth systems will play a part they will not fill the gap in the immediate or long term.

Re: SUPER LEAGUE?! : Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:21 pm  

i cant see even the RFL stooping to that level, and making a complete mockery of any franchise structure they only put in place 3 years ago.

if that did happen, i would not attend pro rugby league ever again. and im sure i wouldnt be on my own with that stance!

expanding to 16 teams looks the most likely outcome to me still...fingers crossed!

Re: SUPER LEAGUE?! : Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:22 pm  

faxcar wrote:

Part quote.
"I would say the legal issues regarding such a scenario is why the above is complete rubbish. All Clubs signed the franchise application form and agreed to it and the set pattern of it being a 3 year thing was in place. They also signed off saying they couldn't and won't challenge the issue legally."
end quote.

I can't see any legal challenge either but on the point of all the clubs signing something should that not make it binding on all parties involved??
If that is so then how can the RFL change things at will without getting approval from all the parties involved.
The signees would be directly affected and the other clubs from the championship although not actually signing anything they are going to be indirectly affected and I would think the negative implications for the latter are potentially massive if not terminal.

That's pretty much what I said, I think, unless we're wording things differently. No one's signed up to this potential scenario, so no ones signed anything saying they won't press legal action. Halifax can't argue the license decision, but letting a team back in after a year has nothing to do with that license procedure. It's just made up.

Anyway, it's a load of toss so I wouldn't worry. Unlike Wakey fans who, clearly getting stressed about the looming announcement are proper trying to belittle every detail about Halifax all of a sudden. Apparently they wipe the floor with our application in every department. .

Re: SUPER LEAGUE?! : Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:35 pm  

tommy wrote:

That's pretty much what I said, I think, unless we're wording things differently. No one's signed up to this potential scenario, so no ones signed anything saying they won't press legal action. Halifax can't argue the license decision, but letting a team back in after a year has nothing to do with that license procedure. It's just made up.

Anyway, it's a load of toss so I wouldn't worry. Unlike Wakey fans who, clearly getting stressed about the looming announcement are proper trying to belittle every detail about Halifax all of a sudden. Apparently they wipe the floor with our application in every department. .

they can come and wipe the floor of our nice new stand when we get the nod!

Re: SUPER LEAGUE?! : Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:18 pm  

Tommy said.

"Unlike Wakey fans who, clearly getting stressed about the looming announcement are proper trying to belittle every detail about Halifax all of a sudden. Apparently they wipe the floor with our application in every department."

Exactly Tommo, and that's another major negative from all of this.
Beforehand when did we see or hear the amount of negative club v club comments?

Never.

The RFL are responsible for this survival mode mentality which is turning one against the other the biggest threat to us at the moment is very much from within.

Re: SUPER LEAGUE?! : Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:40 pm  

What's all the fuss?
As simfaxteddy say's we are in.
No dispute!
We are in!

Re: SUPER LEAGUE?! : Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:56 pm  

halifaxjohn wrote:

:MOTOR:
What's all the fuss?
As simfaxteddy say's we are in.
No dispute!
We are in!

Certain???

I aint

Re: SUPER LEAGUE?! : Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:59 pm  

When someone ploughs the big bucks into Halifax then they'll listen, If it's true about Wakefield then it's because of the promise of heavy backing. It's why Widnes got in and it's why Wakey could remain in. It just irritates me that three clubs have gone into administration and are/could be in SL ahead of us, despite our on-field achievements. What a screwball "game" we are fans of !

Re: SUPER LEAGUE?! : Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:25 pm  

Unfortunately I'm fairly confident that sadly we won't be given a SL licence in 2 weeks.