Re: Fev v Sheff : Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:45 pm  

Taverner wrote:

I honestly don't understand why so many Fax fans have a go at Sheffield! Who cares if they don't have any fans, I know I don't! Rugby fans seem obsessed with other clubs attendances when really it has nothing to do with them, the only people it should concern is the club and it's own supporters and the sports governing body!

If we are are going to have a go at anyone in South Yorkshire it should be Barnsley, they are a mining town without a semi-pro/pro Rugby League team = Weirdos!!!

So why doesn't it concern them, where is the money coming from?
RFL?

Barnsley probably saw the light and realised that with it being a football town there was no point.

Perhaps the RFL couldn't afford two development teams in one area.

Re: Fev v Sheff : Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:04 pm  

Edited for Robins benefit

Taverner wrote:

If we are are going to have a go at anyone in South Yorkshire it should be Rawmarsh, they are a mining town without a Rugby League team = Weirdos!!!

Re: Fev v Sheff : Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:52 pm  

Barnsley a football town, not sure about that!



As for the RFL bankrolling us, I think most sane people understand we get absolutely zero extras by now, but keep believing what you want johnny boy.

Re: Fev v Sheff : Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:10 pm  

Why do Sheffield Eagles play so many home league games on a friday night do any of the sheffield haters know?

Re: Fev v Sheff : Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:01 am  

Duckzilla wrote:

Why do Sheffield Eagles play so many home league games on a friday night do any of the sheffield haters know?

Griff himself confirmed that the sponsors prefer evening games irrespective of the fact that it inconveniences supporters of both teams and therefore the gate.
To be fair Griff has said that he doesn't agree with that sentiment.

Re: Fev v Sheff : Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:09 am  

halifaxjohn wrote:

Griff himself confirmed that the sponsors prefer evening games irrespective of the fact that it inconveniences supporters of both teams and therefore the gate.
To be fair Griff has said that he doesn't agree with that sentiment.

Correct john and trust me i'm no fan of constant friday night games, so why do we bend over backwards for the sponsors when it really does affect the gate? What do they have that sheffield eagles need so much so that they will sacrifice a loss in gate money

Re: Fev v Sheff : Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:27 am  

its probably down to the lack of sponsors available. When you actually look at the numbers that may not turn up on Friday that would on Sunday and include away supporters in that, it could be 200-300 fans per match x £15 its £3k -£4.5k in Gate revenue per game not including other spends. times that by 15 games its £45k - £67k in lost gate money, plus a minimum of £15k on food drink purchases.
That's between £60k-£80k minimum in lost revenue. I know that main sponsors at this level probably pay between £10k & £20k as a main sponsor so really the club are cutting their own throats really if they are letting a sponsor dictate what night they play and they are losing nearly 4 times the amount that sponsor pays because of it.......Only in Rugby league

Re: Fev v Sheff : Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:41 am  

halifaxjohn wrote:

What a stupid comment, prior to 85, 86, 87 our average crowd had dropped to 1400.
Succesfull years brought the crowds back, 88 we were relegated 89, 90 in the second division we averaged 6000.
We have had lean years since we were relegated from Super League but we still have the second highest gate
in the championship.
Fev, Leigh and us would see a significant increase in gates if those good years returned and saw at least two of us in SL
You would still only have 250 paying spectators if the unthinkable happened and the RFL continued with gifting you as a development area and promoted you..

The point you miss is that we're all in the same ****.

We've never had a crowd. You had one and lost it. You should be more worried than us.

Re: Fev v Sheff : Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:42 am  

halifaxjohn wrote:

All very well, congratulations, how about thinking how you can develop your crowds.
Because all the "fantastic" work your club is doing is not generating any interest in Rugby League.

Strangely enough, my thoughts entirely.

Re: Fev v Sheff : Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:55 am  

quinny wrote:

its probably down to the lack of sponsors available. When you actually look at the numbers that may not turn up on Friday that would on Sunday and include away supporters in that, it could be 200-300 fans per match x £15 its £3k -£4.5k in Gate revenue per game not including other spends. times that by 15 games its £45k - £67k in lost gate money, plus a minimum of £15k on food drink purchases.
That's between £60k-£80k minimum in lost revenue. I know that main sponsors at this level probably pay between £10k & £20k as a main sponsor so really the club are cutting their own throats really if they are letting a sponsor dictate what night they play and they are losing nearly 4 times the amount that sponsor pays because of it.......Only in Rugby league

Sponsors definitely prefer Friday nights. Straight from the office to the game, just in time for some snap, watch the game, job's a good 'un. Sunday - takes all day and they don't work Sundays.

Wouldn't argue with your 200-300 but there's VAT to take out, so it's more like £2.5k - £3.75k a game, say £40k over a season plus £0k for the burgers and beer because DVS keep all that.

Sponsorship is profitable but I just think you need to build a crowd if you're going anywhere.

More punters = more gate money = more secondary spend = more ability to sell yourself to sponsors = more press coverage = more punters = etc etc