Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:40 pm  

How thick are the Luddites like Geoff. The Shay is not a historical and is not even 100 years old as a sports stadium! The shay is a millstone for the council and the Bubba Clown Club have just helped reduce its value. Well done! There is scope for profit at The Shay but not under a Council that is in a mess finacially and MUST make cuts. Please explain why a Council should make cuts to Schools, Social Services etc but keep throwing away hundreds of thousands of pounds on a Stadium that is used by less than 3% of the local population regularly?

"The people of Halifax might not have massive interest in their clubs, but I'm sure they'd miss them both if thy were gone."

Why where are both clubs going? Even if TA took over, you think both clubs will just disappear? Another panic scenario dreamt up by the Luddites who follow FC Pubteam. Its clear the Council and TA need to make certain agreements that are legally binding on any sale. But all this doom and gloom from the luddites is why Halifax is a backwater town.

Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:46 pm  

SuperGeoff wrote:

The Shay is not an out of town facility?

There is also a scope for profit on the Shay. If TA believes h can get the Shay making a profit from day 1 then so can the council as the opportunity must be there.

Yes, particularly the Piece Hall as it has historical value to the town, just the like Shay.

We all know that but the council don't have the time, the resources or the inclination to concentrate effort on the Shay when they have an entire town to run.

As TA stated, the Shay will be owned by a totally new company (completely separate from Reactiv Media) whose sole purpose is to manage the Shay efficiently and to make it pay it's way.

Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:31 pm  

I think the best thing we can do, is just say we respect the views of Super Geoff/Bubber and the Bubberites.
We might not agree, but lets just say we respect their views.
Then ignore them.
Let them moan, post stupid posts and let them live in the past.
Lets face it, Mr Abbott will buy the Shay, he will deliver his promises and Town will benefit.
The other thing that is certain is, that when the above have been achieved the Town Luddites will still say it was wrong. After all Mr Abbott offered to sponsor a Town game and his offer was refused. (Fact)
In today's online Courier there is a story about the sell out game for Sunday, the Bubberites are already questioning the truth of that statement.
Paranoid?
Lets just enjoy Sunday.
Onwards and upwards.
The future of the New Shay is bright,
It will always be blue and white.
Incidentally good luck to Town at MK Dons on Saturday and for the few Town supporters who travel there you will see what a good stadium looks like, that could be the Shay.

Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:47 am  

Good evening fax fans

After reading some of the football fans posts believing council ownership on a sports stadium that is losing money is the way forward I thought i would make a post and point there attention for one moment to what is happening in Sheffield at the minute.

The Don Valley Stadium (the largest athletics stadium outside of London) under council ownership has been losing money year on year. The council first said it was losing £700k a year then said it was losing £200k a year I don't think we'll ever know the true cost tbh but the point is the council have simply had enough of propping it up and with the deep cuts all council's are having to make the stadium has now been closed and is to be demolished on the 21st of November they simply cannot afford to keep paying for it's upkeep.

This is what happens in the long run to council owned sports stadiums that are not being used enough by the local rate payer and running at a loss. Sadly there is more important things for council's to pay for and not enough money to pay for them

As for the ex tenants of Don Valley. The athletics has been relocated to a track you wouldn't want to walk your dog around let alone hold any athletics events, The Sheffield Eagles look set to play at Owlerton stadium (essentially a dog track that is hardly ideal for RL) after a big fear that the club would have to leave the city.

A bit of food for thought there or maybe not?

PS really looking forward to the game sunday i'll be there

All the best

Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:04 am  

A salutary tale indeed and a perfect example of why you have to adapt to change , why anyone should think that our Council will carry on subsidising the Shay whilst other services are being cut is beyond me.No Councilor in their right mind will relish having to knock on doors come election time and try to justify subsidising football and rugby whilst they are making swinging cuts to nurseries etc.
Time to wake up and smell the coffee Bubberites and one wonders just how this will all pan out.

Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:11 am  

From Shaymen.net:

moodyb1, on 06 Nov 2013 - 20:50, said:
from the other place: "As TA stated, the Shay will be owned by a totally new company (completely separate from Reactiv Media) whose sole purpose is to manage the Shay efficiently and to make it pay it's way."

what do we know about this? who is bidding for the shay? i thought it was reactiv media? are the council aware of this "new company" scenario? who will be the directors of this company?



Pay it's way????????

How can any fax fan say those words - you owe 60k ffs!!!!!!

@rseholes




The last 3 lines are the reply from the brain donor called "V".

moodyb1 posted a quote from me and judging by his comment either did not go to TA's Q&A session (or if he did he did not listen).

As to V's reply, his comment is irrelevant as the purchase of the stadium is nothing to do with Halifax RLFC. How many times does this need explaining to them?

Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:56 pm  

Captain Brain Donor drivels again (Mr. V on the wendyballers site):

The thick planks of wood.

Reactiv Media is the majority shareholder at Halifax RLFC. Halifax RLFC owe tens of thousands of pounds in rent.

Reactive Media are trying to purchase the Shay.

So I think the connection and the stink is pretty clear - especially when this so called purchase, includes what will be in effect a write off of the rent debt.

The Fax lot are just arrogant, thick planks of wood.

But we need not worry as non of this will come off. The only thing to report will be lost council seats, council officers forced to quit in disgrace and Mr Abbott known for ever as the man who tried to steel the Shay and rob the local tax payer blind.



Are Reactiv Media the club's major shareholder? I thought that they were just our main sponsor myself.

Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:23 pm  

Essentially Reactiv Media are a shareholder in a Halifax RLFC. When TA brought shares it was reported he did so through his company.

I don't know if he is the sole shareholder in Reactiv media and it's not my place to speculate.

Surely the sale could also include transfer if debt to the new owners. In this case uncollected rent. Wouldn't be too unusual I don't think?

And how many councillors will lose seats over this? All because 1500 football fans opt not to vote for them. This isn't like when charlton athletic supporters ran for the council so they could get the funding to re build the valley. Likewise the rugby fans could have no influence over a councillors seat, unless we all lived in the same ward or something

Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:28 pm  

Brew wrote:

Essentially Reactiv Media are a shareholder in a Halifax RLFC. When TA brought shares it was reported he did so through his company.

I don't know if he is the sole shareholder in Reactiv media and it's not my place to speculate.

Surely the sale could also include transfer if debt to the new owners. In this case uncollected rent. Wouldn't be too unusual I don't think?

And how many councillors will lose seats over this? All because 1500 football fans opt not to vote for them. This isn't like when charlton athletic supporters ran for the council so they could get the funding to re build the valley. Likewise the rugby fans could have no influence over a councillors seat, unless we all lived in the same ward or something

Just taken a look at their site now and the stuff they have recently put on about the Calderdale Cabinet is nothing short of a disgrace the Bubberites have certainly gone to new unsavoury lows, I would think some of it is slanderous.

Re: Latest on the sale of The Shay : Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:29 pm  

Next they will be saying that he tried steal Christmas