Re: council statement. : Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:11 pm  

HalifaxCougar wrote:

Supergeoff wont be watching the shaymen today, fact.

Had a fantastic day. Still on the way home but a top day out regardless of the result.

Re: council statement. : Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:26 pm  

SuperGeoff wrote:

1. Nope but that is what you seem to think. The talks were had, the sale never happened. Full stop.

In what way does that makes Halifax Town a selling club? They sold one player to allow the player to reach his ambition and potential (currently in the play-offs in the championship) and the money raised allowed a more rounded squad to be built. Obviously you won't see it that way because it doesn't fit your ideals. Is it not a mark of the football club developing a player worth vast amounts of money?

2. So there are no financial worries then? The fact that 100k was pumped into the cub by its benefactor means nothing? I see you and your cronies have backed down on the claim of Messers Ham and Bosomworth putting vast amounts of money into the club.

1. The talks were had (held, not had thicko) the sale never happened, what sale it was never up for sale according to you, so what did they talk about then.

There a selling club because they sold the star player the only one anybody would pay anything for at the time, this sets a precedent and no doubt they will do the same if another player shows any potential.

They let him go to another club to reach his ambition and potential?

That must mean he could not achieve either with Town then.

350k for Vardy wasn't it, described by you as "a player worth vast amounts of money" and according to what you have just said it was pumped back into the club for a more rounded squad.

The next line you talk of people on here backing down on claims that "Messers Ham and Bosomworth putting vast amounts of money into the club" as if they hadn't.

Again which is it then Einstein.

Obviously you can't even work out that 350k is 3 and a half times greater than 100k so with your logic Town must have 3 and a half times the financial worries then.

Can you not put a single post togther without contradicting yourself, it's embarrasing.

Re: council statement. : Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:41 pm  

faxcar wrote:

1. The talks were had (held not had thicko) the sale never happened, what sale it was never up for sale according to you, so what did they talk about then.

There a selling club because they sold the star player the only one anybody would pay anything for at the time, this sets a precedent and no doubt they will do the same if another player shows any potential.

They let him go to another club to reach his ambition and potential?

That must mean he could not achieve either with Town then.

350k for Vardy wasn't it, described by you as "a player worth vast amounts of money" and according to what you have just said it was pumped back into the club for a more rounded squad.

The next line you talk of peple on here backing down on claims that "Messers Ham and Bosomworth putting vast amounts of money into the club" as if they hadn't.

Again which is it then Einstein.

Obviously you can't even work out that 350k is 3 and a half times greater than 100k so with your logic Town must have 3 and a half times the financial worries then.

Can you not put a single post togther without contradicting yourself, it's embarrasing.

Not at all, there were plenty of other players in that squad worth money. The money from the Vardy sale was money which the club earned from selling a player. You're right, it is mathematically impossible for Vardy to have been promoted four times in the two season since leaving the Shay. Halifax did not need to sell the player, but allowing the player to reach the heights to which he deserves without holding his career back is something that goes a long way in the game. It does not make the club a selling club as you imply, and as would make a club who need to sell. We simply take good players from lower leagues and aid their development.

Once again, the club did not need the Vardy money, but the 400k+ raised from the sale of Vardy was money put into the club that was raised BY THE CLUB. Not put into the club via the pocket of a businessman. As has already bee pointed out to you, the club is self sufficient. According to you Ham and Bosomworth should have kept the money for themselves rather than allowing it to go to the club, otherwise they're bankrolling us. 38k as start up spread between two directors and a chairman.

It may well surprise you that sportsmen don't play for their club for the love of the game. Players at lower levels such as the Kingstone's Press Championship and the Skrill Premier use the clubs as a springboard, and if it achieves success and finance on the way then that is a bonus for all involved.

I'm sure one day you'll put a post together free of glaring spelling mistakes and accurate factual information. That way you'll less like a wet otter.

Re: council statement. : Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:51 am  

faxcar wrote:

Ah so unlike your mate SG you accept they did consider selling then.

Of course they considered selling. I think it was more council officers though doing the pushing than councillors. The majority of councillors knew nothing about it and were concerned at how it had been handled.

faxcar wrote:

"Your bit." The comments made by some of the Town group were well beyond the playground and more inline with despicable thugs.
Personel character attacks on the man, his family, twitter accounts, his charitable works, comparing him to a child killer and many more.

As I said, some supporters on both sides have made inappropriate comments.

faxcar wrote:

Hardly a platform or invitation to "proper debate", this type of high morals good intention talk in view of your actions is the definition of a contradiction in terms.
If that is "fair game" then once again, in print you have shown what you are really about and what moral standards you have.

My comment about 'fair game' was in reference to Tony Abbott fighting for his case for buying the ground and HTST fighting the case for the council not selling. I dont think you will find comments made by any HTST board members where they have been "inlne with despicable thugs" as you like to put it.

faxcar wrote:

This "persuasion" was motivated by his connection to the rugby club and nothing more, the rest of the concerned retoric was a smoke screen because you and yours don't want the rugby club at the Shay at all.
You claim it to be a community assett just as long as the community is FCHT and everbody else, rugby supporters, rate payers are surplus baggage.

Your paranoia is reaching a new level. I am happy to debate with you but please dont turn it ridiculous.

Fax4Life wrote:

Cos [sic] you are good at throwing figures around when it suits yet cannot tell us how many fans are members of the Halifax Town Supporters Trust, I wonder why???

I have thrown figures about which have been relevant to the debate. I wonder why this is so important to you. Is it because you believe HTST only represents its membership? Having not heard one FCHT supporter say they were in favour of a sale of the Shay I would like to think our actions represented the whole of the FCHT support base.

Fax4Life wrote:

As for Tony Abbotts company failing its you who have missed the point as he has stated in public that the Shay will be a separate stadium company which would not be affected if Reactive went bust.

Come on! You are an intelligent guy. You're not thinking properly about this.

Re: council statement. : Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:04 am  

SuperGeoff wrote:

Had a fantastic day. Still on the way home but a top day out regardless of the result.

You can have my ticket stub so you can pretend you went to all your friends.

Re: council statement. : Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:52 pm  

The Taylors Shop and the Taylors Dummy speak again.

[quote="Bubba"]Of course they considered selling. I think it was more council officers though doing the pushing than councillors. The majority of councillors knew nothing about it and were concerned at how it had been handled.

We agree on the Shay being for sale then. (Take note SuperGaffe.)

The level of and gap between the inappropriate comments and actions are clear and in print for all to see.
Some of the thug brigade hold you as their champion, you like their admiration and are implicated by association.
The self appointed clever (in your eyes) front man.

The resentment of Fax being at the Shay by many Town fans is well known and if you want to pass it off as paronoia then I'm happy to be paranoid and ridiculous and don't give a rats booty if you are happy or not.

On numbers. Just how many people are involved in HTST and the Town fan base?
Is it a few for HTST and 1600 or so TFB?
Just wondering why such a small number of people think their views are better than anyone else concerning a public assett.

SuperGaffe.

I don't care what the Town BOD do with the money, or where they get it from, whatever method they choose fine by me that's there buisness.

I do know where Vardy went but does anyone know where all the money went?

Likewise what the Fax BOD decide to do with their club is their buisness and being a Town fan has nothing to do with you if they choose a differnent option.

That different option does by the way include trying to recruit and nuture players who believe they can progress with the club and not by having to leave it, ask them they have said exactly that.

As to springboards, well you know much more about them than me being a proper plank.

Re: council statement. : Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:59 pm  

Definite paranoia because you are reading things that arent there. As for me, I am always happy

Re: council statement. : Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:47 pm  

What a load of BS from the Luddites. Super Geoff trying to be a keyboard warrior and saying we should all follow Football and FC Pubteam. People dont like football nor your club- get over it! Football for me and others is boring. But we dont go on your forum and go on about it. Dont have anything positive to say about RL or Fax then dont bother coming on.

Bubba your forum at Shaymen.net is a disgrace and has allowed lies, untruths as well as slanderous comments to be posted. As a moderator/Administrator you are responsible for what is posted. Allowing people to post hate like they want Abbott to be chased out of the area and calling Abbott all the names under the sun is a disgrace. But then you try and call his charactor in to question and allow people to post untruths and slander regarding Tony Abbott and his company. How can you expect people to take you seriously? And the way you go on and claim to be the voice of all Halifax Town fans is a joke. You took your bat and ball home once and now you stick your nose in and think you know best. Your backward thinking and attitude is why the town is a back water. Instead of thinking of the future and seeing the benefits, you are happy to stay in the dark ages and think the council are so good- until FC Pubteam games are postponed. Instead of seeing the Council sell the Shay you would rather Nurseries and Social Services etc cut. People like you make me sick with the BS you do behind peoples back.

Re: council statement. : Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:00 pm  

Why can't we all just get along? Think of the children.

Re: council statement. : Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:07 pm  

littlerich wrote:

Why can't we all just get along? Think of the children.

I do often think of them, BubbaGeoff and his 128 acolytes.