Re: Time To Act : Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:24 pm  

Just see Mr Creosote on Boots'n'all.
Pathetic, Lewis, Rimmer and Wood should go. Bumbling idiots.
Its about time SL chairmen had a long hard look at themselves, they are killing the sport.

Re: Time To Act : Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:23 pm  

taffy tiger wrote:

Whilst I understand your frustration , and even as a Cas fan , I do think you are being a little harsh on Wakey under the circumstances . Yes , you are absolutely correct that they went into administration , but they were able to do so confident in the knowledge that it wouldn't prevent them from applying for a super league franchise , as this rule had been ' wavered ' but not because of Wakey , but because of the Crusaders . When you look at the situation with the ground you are , again , absolutely correct in stating that Wakey have failed to fulfill their promise of a new stadium ( as have Cas at the moment to be fair ) , but there seems no doubt on here or on any of the other forums that Halifax ground is , at the moment , better than those of Wakey and Cas , and I would agree , but this has also been noted by the RFL , who will have awarded a point on the Fax application under stadium , but not under the Wakey or Cas application and , as has been stated on numerous occasions , this was not the only criteria of a super league franchise , and on all other points Wakey will have outscored you . Now , once again I don't doubt that you could have done much more on these fronts with the cash that SL clubs have had , and the security of 3 years in the top flight , had you been in their position , but the fact remains that you were not , however harsh that seems . Your main chance of a SL place was when the Championship applications were submitted , but unfortunately you came up against a very strong application from Widnes , there was absolutely no obligation from the RFL to promote a second championship side , and they did praise your application and actually gave you a second chance , but this may have turned out to be as protection for themselves in case , as has happened , a SL team was unable to continue , and they could save their own embarassment by promoting you . Rest assured that if a further SL team withdraws / Folds , you will be a shue in to fill their place , and rightly so . To be fair to Wakey their comminity work has merited a mention by the RFL to such an extent that they want other SL clubs to follow Wakeys example
In summary , and in a strange kind of way , it isn't Wakey that you should be angry at , it is the Crusaders . Had they not gone into administration in the first place , or having gone into administration , had they then decided to remove themselves from SL and not wait until yesterday , then you would also have been a SL club next year , as the RFL would definitely not have ' wavered ' the administration rule for Wakey ( or any other Sl club apart from expansion teams or Leeds , Wigan , Saints , Wire , Hull ) and Wakey wouldn't have been able to apply for a franchise this time around , Crusaders would have been out and Widnes and Fax ( the best 2 championship applications ) would have been in SL from 2012 .

Sorry if this upsets , and I know feelings are running high at the moment , and understandably so , but it isn't really Wakey's fault , they have , under the current stipulations of the RFL met with the requirements to be awarded a franchise for the next 3 years

Hit the nail on the head there fella!

[Kosh]

Re: Time To Act : Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:53 pm  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

To think that Wakey didnt have the worst application is quite frankly laughable.

Based on what facts, exactly?

Re: Time To Act : Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:57 pm  

Thanks for the posting The LinkMan. Agree with much of your posting but I don't share your confidence that if a superleague folds or closes etc we will be let in. It just won't happen. Remember three months ago we have met the criteria.

Re: Time To Act : Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:21 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Based on what facts, exactly?

What apart from your terrible stadium, mis-management during the licence period, and poor financial record?

I think its about the only thing that Nigel Wood cleared up tonight when he was quizzed on reports saying that Wakey got in on merit. Well of course they did they got one of the 13 places. The bookies dont usually get things wrong and to say it was a closed book suggests that if Crusaders hadnt dropped out then it would have infact been Wakey making the way for Widnes.

Its great that you got to keep your place but to declare that Wakefields bid wasnt the worst other than ours really takes the proverbial.

Re: Time To Act : Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:36 pm  

exdysonroadie wrote:

Thanks for the posting The LinkMan. Agree with much of your posting but I don't share your confidence that if a superleague folds or closes etc we will be let in. It just won't happen. Remember three months ago we have met the criteria.

It was TaffyTiggers post, but thanks all the same. I can understand your lack of confidence with how things seem to be sometimes with the shenanigans of the rfl board, but put it this way: if wakey would have been kicked out they probably would have been out for good, so your in a better position than we would have been in if it was the other way round. And i guess the rfl will be pointing out the floors in your bid that need to be ironed out for next time, so i expect you to be the favourites for the next round of licenses and/or lined up ready for if any other team crumbles or fail to meet expectations in the mean time (unless another ridiculous expansion club comes along ofcourse.....)

Re: Time To Act : Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:01 pm  

And i guess the rfl will be pointing out the floors in your bid that need to be ironed out for next time


thats the thing, the the rfl did this last time , and we fixed everything they asked.

Re: Time To Act : Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:33 am  

wakey have got in witha wealthy backer, but yet they still went into administration, with many years of high finances, seems odd to me,
they cant run a buisness, and cant compete at sl level, they need to now earn the place, otherwise the rfl going t look even more stupid, no wonder we get laughed at

Re: Time To Act : Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:29 am  

truewiganer wrote:

wakey have got in witha wealthy backer, but yet they still went into administration, with many years of high finances, seems odd to me,
they cant run a buisness, and cant compete at sl level, they need to now earn the place, otherwise the rfl going t look even more stupid, no wonder we get laughed at

Not sure were you lot get your information from,but the Wakefield backer does not have the kind of wealth as per Ken Davey/David Hughes(Quins).I wouldnt mind being a couple of quid behind him,but his wealth would have in no way influenced the decision.He is a hardworking successful business man thats done well from double glazing,not someone that can afford to waste £500k propping up finances.

Re: Time To Act : Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:43 am  

that was the only thing that i could come up with out of that usless interview on boots n all last night