Re: Pitch?! : Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:58 pm  

freddies wig wrote:

Reading the review of the offer posted up now, it's staggering!

Still, if the council need the rent money and are desperate for it!

Questions though, who would want to be a second long term tenant with them after this, what happens if FC can't pay their rent, apart from the ignomy of putting a sporting club out on its ear, (back pats all round), who gains what from it?

Maybe we should get the RFL to buy The Shay as they did Odsal - would we be iconic enough?

well we did host a world cup game

Re: Pitch?! : Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:00 pm  

pinballwizzard wrote:

That's it. This has little to do with the pitch. It was knackered before we touched it in 2015. It was terrible before Fax moved to the shay (I played junior football finals there twice in the 90s, and it was barren and sandy then...in April). The Town fans know this.

The is an excuse for them to spout bile. They are continually disaffected. This week the pitch, next week the rent, week after the chips

Nowt wrong with the chips, take it from me, I am an expert.

Re: Pitch?! : Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:18 pm  

mr t hall wrote:

Yep, I'm afraid that the more detail I hear in this rumour the less comfort I have in it.



I won't deny that there's a part of me that wants the eggers to stay out of our ground. This has sprung from their habits over the past 17 years, obviously. I see the stadium redevelopment fiasco and the Abbott bid as two things that nearly wiped out football in Halifax forever, whether they intended to do that or not. Halifax Town is too precious to me for anyone involved in/supporting those two things to be forgiven. Then when there's no sign that they will ever want to cooperate with any schemes to improve the pitch, or donate a penny of their own money towards the Shay's shortcomings that they're just as loud at condemning, it makes me think they deserve whatever they get. We'd even be able to see if Abbott has any money to speak of when he knocks on the doors of Halifax RUFC and Heath RLFC to ask if his rugby club can sleep over for a few nights.



But behind the idiots in control and their shills online, there are many people who have no dog in the fight and just love their local rugby team, who are good sportsmen despite their ignorance to all our gripes with them. There are kids with heroes, who are active because they've got the rugby bug. I honestly value those people as much as I do our own fans, and it'll be their Halifax RLFC for as long as it lasts, and I still (pigheadedly) believe Halifax RLFC isn't fundamentally a force for evil.



When representing Save Our Shay I did so without doing down either sport or club. I went for the bid itself (unjustifiable), Abbott's own integrity (nonexistent), and the way he helped run the club (terribly). There was endless material there anyway, and I'd still want to make it work for both football fans and eggers fans. I'm not sure if it's entirely relevant to Save Our Shay because it doesn't threaten the ground, but every detail asks a new question, and it has massive implications for the eggers fans.



First priority for Town is to get the pitch sorted and stop perfectly normal winters ruining our grass and fixture schedule. Yes, getting rid of the eggers would go most of the way to stop it being a mudbath by February. But it's short sighted. You never know when the current board could leave and be replaced by one who actually undergoes business with a shred of decency. Then after ten years, how does the missing money from the rugby rent get supplemented? The council may receive a fraction of the eggers' rent an average of four months late currently, but it's decent money and better than none. I still hate them for playing cat-and-mouse with the council over it, but this situation isn't permanent.



It's a really unappetising dichotomy between letting things stay as they are with the pitch underfunded and failing to drain and becoming impossible to play proper football on, and all but killing off the eggers for good when they're evicted. I don't know how we're going to sort this out otherwise though, maybe oust the Fax board but that's not really our job.

A quote from Pliny Harris from town board,indicitive of the general concensus.

Bloody Hell Ian. Been reading 'Guardian?

Re: Pitch?! : Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:42 am  

Fax4Life wrote:

plus the ground now being owned by the Council

The ground has always been owned by the council.

Re: Pitch?! : Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:22 pm  

Bubba wrote:

The ground has always been owned by the council.

No it hasn't back in the seventies it was owned by Halifax Town AFC until the eighties and 'football on the rates' saga

Re: Pitch?! : Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:59 pm  

Fax4Life wrote:

No it hasn't back in the seventies it was owned by Halifax Town AFC until the eighties and 'football on the rates' saga

As I recall the ground has always been owned by the Halifax borough. The football club had a very long lease (250 years?) and also paid a "pepper corn rent" or something like that. When they got so far into debt they surrendered the lease and the Council at the time paid of the said debt.

Re: Pitch?! : Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:29 am  

Fax4Life wrote:

No it hasn't back in the seventies it was owned by Halifax Town AFC until the eighties and 'football on the rates' saga

Incorrect. Cassandra is not far off. The council bought the lease back thinking they could make money out of running the place. But by this time the speedway was gone, crowds at the time were struggling to scrape over a thousand and the club (as far too often the case) was a joke with the stadium a dump.

Re: Pitch?! : Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:57 am  

Courier has an article including comment from Calderdale Council's sport and active Leisure manager Mike Murray who says the pitch will be relaid in the summer.

In part it he says " The period of significant rain and snow over the winter led to problems with the pitch but we continue to allow games to go ahead approaching one game at a time and try and plan our maintenance accordingly."

"We have a maintenance window planned in the summer where we plan to remove existing grass, thatch the top 2-3 inches of soil and fully reseed and regrow the pitch surface."

"We also carry out routine drainage work on the pitch throughout the year and we are working with both clubs to see what further improvements can be made to the pitch during the summer."

Re: Pitch?! : Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:19 am  

faxcar wrote:

Courier has an article including comment from Calderdale Council's sport and active Leisure manager Mike Murray who says the pitch will be relaid in the summer.

In part it he says " The period of significant rain and snow over the winter led to problems with the pitch but we continue to allow games to go ahead approaching one game at a time and try and plan our maintenance accordingly."

"We have a maintenance window planned in the summer where we plan to remove existing grass, thatch the top 2-3 inches of soil and fully reseed and regrow the pitch surface."

"We also carry out routine drainage work on the pitch throughout the year and we are working with both clubs to see what further improvements can be made to the pitch during the summer."

What they have planned this summer is the second phase of what they did last and will supposedly make a huge difference though in some respects its still papering over the cracks.

Re: Pitch?! : Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:40 pm  

Regarding the sate of your pitch good job you don't play in the NRL http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 7272779647

Regarding the sate of your pitch good job you don't play in the NRL http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 7272779647