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Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:41 am**

Tony Fax wrote:

I also noticed that. Terry mentioned the full time difference and I thought someone would correct him in his ear piece, but he said it again later :roll:

With no Championship coverage on SKY, this lot really did think London were cannon fodder but their ball handling was superior. Widnes had the bigger forwards but they looked shot at the end. Toulouse will give the Whinos a game tomorrow as well, mark my words. Am I right? I'm not wrong!

First of all well done London.
Secondly TonyFax are you morphing into Charlie C in his forum absence and know everything now? :wink:

Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:55 am**

hooligan27 wrote:

Sky were annoying last night saying fittnes should see them beat a part time team. DO they not realise Full time teams are in the championship

Not surprised the two oafs weren't up to speed,Clarke can't see further than his super league snout but if Carney is going to front it he should do his research.

Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:57 am**

Widnes were dire - a lot of large lumpish full time professionals - no pride in their shirt - and little skill - they were lucky it wasn't a bigger defeat. I expect them to be far more physical in their remaining matches - its the only way Catalans survived last year.

Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:10 am**

Well you certainly wouldn't have known who the SL side were would you . The support base tells you it's a failure

Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:24 am**

Widnes were lucky to be in the game in the last 20, ref let them lie on time and again. Will be interesting to see how the rest of the games are reffed, we’ve got Kendall who let Bird away with assault last season.

Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:15 am**

harry1 wrote:

no pride in their shirt

That certainly looked the case near the end when they were under a great deal of pressure. And how can Liam Finn possibly be "100% Widnes" when he's basically a stop gap? Even Charlie Gubb lost loads of steam - I bet he was surprised how hard London were. Only stand out Widnes player was their full back Ashall-Bott - now he does look very good.

Living The Dream - difference between me and Charlie is that he was proved quite often to be wrong, whereas still waiting for my first hit

Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:07 am**

hooligan27 wrote:

Sky were annoying last night saying fittnes should see them beat a part time team. DO they not realise Full time teams are in the championship

That pi88ed me off too. they kept on about Widnes being full time as if London were not. Do Sky and their presenters not realise that 3 out of the top 4 are full time. I think at one point they mentioned only Toronto being full time. Sky and SL are in for a shock. I can see 2 SL clubs going being demoted this time, one being the 'mighty' Leeds.
Our League is getting better and they need to wake up..

UP THE FAX!

Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:19 am**

Faxlore wrote:

That pi88ed me off too. they kept on about Widnes being full time as if London were not. Do Sky and their presenters not realise that 3 out of the top 4 are full time. I think at one point they mentioned only Toronto being full time. Sky and SL are in for a shock. I can see 2 SL clubs going being demoted this time, one being the 'mighty' Leeds.
Our League is getting better and they need to wake up..

UP THE FAX!

I’m all for ex-players being involved in commentary but they need to be good at the job, most of these aren’t so just get a good commentator in who can learn the background.
Aussie tv have a few female commentators who know their stuff, far better than these dinosaurs.

Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:00 pm**

Tony Fax wrote:

It's all very well everyone agreeing with Norman, but they're all wrong. Widnes beating us in the Northern Rail semi following Ben's hot potato experience was in 2009 and Widnes got that outrageous franchise in 2012. Widnes had already won the Northern Rail Cup in 2007 so, as I say, that semi win against us had nothing to do with their franchise success. We also bid for the franchise, enabled by that marvellous last attendance versus Batley of nearly 5,000 which put our required average to 2,500. I remember it well

The 2007 NRC victory was, I believe, irrelevant. The criteria at the time stated, amongst other things, that a club had to have reached the NRC final in 2009/2010. Therefore Ben Black's dropped ball did get Widnes back into SL.

Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:03 pm**

Or should I say, gave the governing body an excuse to shove them in.

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