: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:45 am  

Normy Knight wrote:

We need everything even straighter posts.

What about new burger vans and a new sweet stall for the kids?

Sod it, lets get new face painters too

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:28 am  

Tigerpie wrote:

We need a defensive coach?

TM is a good attacking coach?

It would definatley be a good idea.

And yes he is, we play some of the best attacking rugby in the league, havent you noticed.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:09 pm  

pyeman wrote:

It would definatley be a good idea.

And yes he is, we play some of the best attacking rugby in the league, havent you noticed.

Exactly up until we started getting injuries we were the top points scores in SL.

After the Fax game our defence had picked up. It's just the second half of this game we struggled and of the tries scored against us 2 were interceptions which has nothing to do with our defence and 1 was when we were down to 12 men and the extra man told out wide.
Now I'm not saying every things fine and I wouldn't complain if a defensive coach was brought in, but the players have shown that they are able to improve their defence. Just looks like they need reminding fairly often.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:18 pm  

Bearded wrote:

Exactly up until we started getting injuries we were the top points scores in SL.

After the Fax game our defence had picked up. It's just the second half of this game we struggled and of the tries scored against us 2 were interceptions which has nothing to do with our defence and 1 was when we were down to 12 men and the extra man told out wide.
Now I'm not saying every things fine and I wouldn't complain if a defensive coach was brought in, but the players have shown that they are able to improve their defence. Just looks like they need reminding fairly often.

Personally i think think if we brought in a top defence coach for next year and about 5 qaulity players while releasing a couple we would be a top 6 team (barring a major, hullesque injury crisis). I hope we keep most of the young players of this sqaud (shenton, huby, boyle, westy, higgins, owen, netherton, ferres and jones) together for the forseeable future they have shown what they can do and will only get better through experiance and familiarity with one another. Leeds played a bunch of young players under Powell and perceviered even when things werent going their way, and because of it they have the 2nd best team in sl.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:00 pm  

pyeman wrote:

It would definatley be a good idea.

And yes he is, we play some of the best attacking rugby in the league, havent you noticed.

As i've stated lovely to watch, but we don't convert pressure into points. A common failing os Cas in SL under TM

Not a good idea to get a defensive coach. We've proven we can defend, the problem is consistency

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:09 pm  

Tigerpie wrote:

As i've stated lovely to watch, but we don't convert pressure into points. A common failing os Cas in SL under TM

Not a good idea to get a defensive coach. We've proven we can defend, the problem is consistency

At the begining of the season when werent missing key players we scored more points than anyone in sl that was true for about 8 games or so, so we can convert pressure into points, but only when we have key personel playing and and experianced captain leading us. once again this leads back to our lack of depth, tm is working with a smaller budget than most of the clubs in sl, yet we can still win 50% (well just off) of our games, if he could spend up to the salery cap, we would be top 4.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:39 pm  

i would be amazed if he didn't already have a defensive speacialist boxed checked. thing is you can only work on 1 aspect at a time for rapid improvement or do alot of things gradually.

Your coach is doing fine. More than fine. He'll sort out what needs to be sorted out.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:11 pm  

pyeman wrote:

At the begining of the season when werent missing key players we scored more points than anyone in sl that was true for about 8 games or so, so we can convert pressure into points, but only when we have key personel playing and and experianced captain leading us. once again this leads back to our lack of depth, tm is working with a smaller budget than most of the clubs in sl, yet we can still win 50% (well just off) of our games, if he could spend up to the salery cap, we would be top 4.

From memory, those first 8 games, yes we scored a few, but then we lost against Quins(no Sherwin) and lost against the Giants despite having the lions share of possession and field position. The other games, Salford apart we were hardly hammering teams. Even the Pies away, we should have been out of sight but weren't and they nearly made us pay. We have continued to get good field position and plenty of possession since those first 8, with the exception of the HKR game, yet we have not scored anything like the number of points we should have.

Yes, we are currently missing Key players, Hudson more than anyone in my book, but the coach keeps putting the tried, tested and failed combinations in key positions. We've got a while to manage without Shifty and Hudson, time to try something different

: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:13 am  

Tigerpie wrote:

From memory, those first 8 games, yes we scored a few, but then we lost against Quins(no Sherwin) and lost against the Giants despite having the lions share of possession and field position. The other games, Salford apart we were hardly hammering teams. Even the Pies away, we should have been out of sight but weren't and they nearly made us pay. We have continued to get good field position and plenty of possession since those first 8, with the exception of the HKR game, yet we have not scored anything like the number of points we should have.

Yes, we are currently missing Key players, Hudson more than anyone in my book, but the coach keeps putting the tried, tested and failed combinations in key positions. We've got a while to manage without Shifty and Hudson, time to try something different

What different combinations you suggest because with so few players you can only shuffle them round so much (and the more you shuffle them round the more detrimentle to the team it will be).

: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:29 am  

pyeman wrote:

What different combinations you suggest because with so few players you can only shuffle them round so much (and the more you shuffle them round the more detrimentle to the team it will be).

Owen to share no.9????

Would then be able to keep Chase at 6 (a must).

Owen is easily tough enough and always shows how sharp he is running from dummy half. This would also provide a contrasting style to Netherton.