Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:24 pm  

the artist wrote:

but to play devils advocate, league clubs raided union almost weekly in the 80s and early 90s. doug laughton spent more time in the valleys than he did in widnes. this sort of thing is just the reverse of this now union clubs have big bucks isn't it?

They were, supposedly, amateurs so didn't have a contract to break - Solomona does.

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:34 pm  

If it turns out that he has jumped ship, isn't he contractually tied to Cas?

It must be very annoying not only to lose a good player, but to get sod all to boot.

Well at least they've got Hardaker to soften the blow, as I'm sure Leeds fans will vouch.

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:39 pm  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

If it turns out that he has jumped ship, isn't he contractually tied to Cas?

It must be very annoying not only to lose a good player, but to get sod all to boot.

Well at least they've got Hardaker to soften the blow, as I'm sure Leeds fans will vouch.

Different sporting body so I'd assume not. As long as he retires from RL I'd guess Cas will be allowed to retain his registration should he decide to come back to RL. Perhaps they should have accepted the reported offers before it came to this (assuming this speculation is correct)

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:42 pm  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

If it turns out that he has jumped ship, isn't he contractually tied to Cas?.

Only to play Rugby League I suppose. If for arguments sake a player retired and then went to play football or cricket or just get a normal job nobody would say what about his contract so I don't see why he couldn't go to Rugby Union.

The problem he'd have possibly is if he (like many others before him) flop in RU and he comes back to RL. If it's within the time period his Cas contract still had to run then maybe that might be an issue I'm not sure?

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:01 pm  

Is the involvement of lawyers more to do with the actions of Sale in all this? Just a thought.

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:06 pm  

duke street 10 wrote:

Is the involvement of lawyers more to do with the actions of Sale in all this? Just a thought.

Doubt it. Nothing to stop an organisation poaching personnel. It only applies between rugby league clubs because of the RFL rules.

I imagine most contracts have a break clause, whereby notice can be given to bring it to an end. If he's not signing for a league club, I'd imagine that there's not much Cas can do. Sale are not bound by the RFL operational rules.

It's a bit low of Denny though. One good season and he kicks Cas into touch as if they never mattered, as he had an agreement with them for two more years, regardless of what Sale offered.

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:14 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

Doubt it. Nothing to stop an organisation poaching personnel. It only applies between rugby league clubs because of the RFL rules.

I imagine most contracts have a break clause, whereby notice can be given to bring it to an end. If he's not signing for a league club, I'd imagine that there's not much Cas can do. Sale are not bound by the RFL operational rules.

It's a bit low of Denny though. One good season and he kicks Cas into touch as if they never mattered, as he had an agreement with them for two more years, regardless of what Sale offered.

From all the reports which were comibg out, it seemed like both Solomona and Sale had done the right thing and made an offer for him, it seems that Cas turned down those offers which has now left the club short-changed. Rugby players only have a relatively short career, if he can make more in a single season at Sale than he would have made in the rest of his contract at Cas then good luck to him.

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:15 pm  

Very unprofessional of Denny to post what he did on social media. Good riddance I say. I don't think he would have bagged half those tries this season if he didn't have Gale & Dorn servicing his wing.

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:15 pm  

bentleberry wrote:

From all the reports which were comibg out, it seemed like both Solomona and Sale had done the right thing and made an offer for him, it seems that Cas turned down those offers which has now left the club short-changed. Rugby players only have a relatively short career, if he can make more in a single season at Sale than he would have made in the rest of his contract at Cas then good luck to him.

Even if Cas turned the offer down, it doesn't give him a right to just up and leave when he wants. If that was the case, every bloody player would be doing it.

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:16 pm  

Due to the nature of the sport there's little loyalty from many players these days, presumably he'll be getting a major pay rise.

I don't know who put an offer in for him over the last few month, but I bet Cas wished they'd bitten their hands off.