Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:20 pm  

poppys mum wrote:

I was at the game, stood 15 yards to the right of the group.
They sang 2 songs, not lasting more than 30 sconds for both songs.

The first one made me cringe, though imo it wasn't sang that loud and i didnt imgine cry baby would have heard it at all. He was down the other end of the field.
The second one was more light hearted and tbh did make me smile ''we can see you holding hands''......just a bit of lighthearted banter, well thats how i saw it.


40 grand for a 30 second chant

So the first one made you cringe and it wasn't even aimed at you and you call him a cry baby!!

One question for you ..... do you think it was wrong of Gareth Thomas (or anyone else at the match) to take offence at the chanting?

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:24 pm  

Gazemous wrote:

:? Where did I say that?

you said it was a shame Crusaders didnt play ourselves or Salford first then we would have incurred the fine and not Cas.I am amazed that seemingly sensible Cas posters including mods think that people are gay through choice! Some of the opinions expressed on here are a throwback to the 1950's!

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:30 pm  

Traffic wrote:

One question for you ..... do you think it was wrong of Gareth Thomas (or anyone else at the match) to take offence at the chanting?

No. But it's unbelievably naive of him (or anyone else) to expect he'll never have to suffer anything like that, especially after 'coming out' into the 'rough, tough' world of Rugby (either code).

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:31 pm  

Traffic wrote:

So the first one made you cringe and it wasn't even aimed at you and you call him a cry baby!!

One question for you ..... do you think it was wrong of Gareth Thomas (or anyone else at the match) to take offence at the chanting?

Like i said the first chant made me cringe, bit below the belt if you as me.

The second one was more light hearted IMO.
Maybe i'm more relaxed with lighthearted chants.
Some other people probably arnt, we are all different and have different opinions.

If someone in the street sang both songs to me i'd just put my 2 fingers up at them and walk away.....but thats me.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:38 pm  

poppys mum wrote:

Like i said the first chant made me cringe, bit below the belt if you as me.

The second one was more light hearted IMO.
Maybe i'm more relaxed with lighthearted chants.
Some other people probably arnt, we are all different and have different opinions.

If someone in the street sang both songs to me i'd just put my 2 fingers up at them and walk away.....but thats me.

Sorry but you've answered how you would react and not what I asked. Does Gareth Thomas have a right to offended at the chanting? Yes or No.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:44 pm  

Traffic wrote:

Sorry but you've answered how you would react and not what I asked. Does Gareth Thomas have a right to offended at the chanting? Yes or No.

It depends which chants he heard, I only heard one, and that was the holding hands chant at the time Crusaders were at the WRE, so he would have heard that one,
I did not hear any other chants GT himself was attacking the Railway end with the team, he was the closest player on the pitch to my location when according to another account the offensive of the 2 chants were going on, so there is no way he would have heard it, it doesn't make it right but he also cannot complain about something he didn't hear, right?

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:49 pm  

let's get real here folks,how will the rfl be able to defend it's decision in awarding cas a £40,000 fine?
Would this ever stand up in a court of law?
what was chanted at that game was clearly wrong,but what could the castleford club possibly have done to prevent those clearly "biggoted fans" from chanting such homophobic bile?
i hope that common sense prevails here,and that the culprits are named and shamed and are banned from all sl grounds indefinately,that would solve the problem,fining cas £40,000 wouldnt,as they would shout the self same thing next season!

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:50 pm  

Traffic wrote:

Sorry but you've answered how you would react and not what I asked. Does Gareth Thomas have a right to offended at the chanting? Yes or No.

Depends on his out look on life. Maybe his coming out was still raw and he found it hard how to react to people making fun of it in 2 chants at a RL game.
Obviously he did take offence, other wise we wouldn't be talking about it now and cas would be 40 grand richer.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:54 pm  

Jonesy's a Legend wrote:

Would this ever stand up in a court of law?

No, any lawyer worth his salt would just put on a Sky game in court and say listen to the abuse that goes on at EVERY club, homophobic or not, abuse is abuse and it would be thrown out like a shot (especially if they showed the Wire fans chanting about the shower habits of convicts to Leon Pryce)

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:07 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

No, any lawyer worth his salt would just put on a Sky game in court and say listen to the abuse that goes on at EVERY club, homophobic or not, abuse is abuse and it would be thrown out like a shot (especially if they showed the Wire fans chanting about the shower habits of convicts to Leon Pryce)

exactly,so i hope that the club receive the required evidence to ban these morons once and for all,then we will see what further action is deemed necessary by the rfl!
Lets be honest here,the cas club has been judged by a minority of imbeciles
does that warrant fining the club?