Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:27 am  

Even Eddie said on Boots n' All last night, how on earth is a club supposed to stop the crowd chanting such things. Stevo obviously thought the fine was a good idea, confirming he is not Cas' greatest fan for me.

[Kosh]

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:59 am  

This thread is almost as embarrassing as the incident that lead to the fine. Some quite extraordinary comments and attitudes on display.

I understand that people are angry that the actions of a moronic few have lead to the club as a whole being punished, but lashing out at everyone else really isn't doing you any favours.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:16 am  

t drednowts is cumin! wrote:

you said it was a shame Crusaders didnt play ourselves or Salford first then we would have incurred the fine and not Cas.I am amazed that seemingly sensible Cas posters including mods think that people are gay through choice! Some of the opinions expressed on here are a throwback to the 1950's!

Stop putting words into my mouth. It's a shame for Cas we played first because we got fined, I didn't say I would be supportive of any other club getting fined - I would still be as appalled as I am. Of course I'd PREFER it to happen to a club that isn't my own, but that doesn't mean I would agree with it.

And I've never said people are homosexual through choice either.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:51 am  

How behind the times am I? No I wasn't chanting the songs, I mean i've just had to catch up on a full ten page thread. That was exhausting. For the record, I'm not gay, i'm not racist, i didn't chant at GT so no need for anyone to waste bandwidth questioning me on any of them.


So yeah, it's pretty obvious after all this that GT took it the wrong way. Despite the fact that he didn't want to make a big thing about being gay, he's rattled on about it like a woman. He should have just taken it like a man and ignored it all.


Lots has been discussed and i won't go over the many same arguments. But one thing about this whole country that annoys me is that we find racism and sexuality high on the list of things not to abuse others of, and quite rightly so. This because at the end of the day, it's how they are and there's nothing anyone can do about it, and it is after all 2010 and we're all just the same. But as a country, we find it totally socially acceptable to attack ginger haired people. So much so that TV and radio presenters can openly attack ginger haired people (could they do this to gay or black people) and this goes all the way through to RL fans chanting at grounds. We have people on this thread telling us that no one should separate white from black, gay from straight but these people know that the ginger chants go on in RL and it is totally acceptable. Someone explain to me what is different? Is it ok to chant at James Graham and call him a fat ginger barsteward (he is tubby and ginger, not sure about the barsteward bit) but not ok to shout at Gareth Thomas for being gay (when he is gay, he admits it, just check out the umpteen times he's told us all on radio, TV, newspapers and internet). I don't see a difference tbh, someone convince me otherwise.

I'm looking forward to the RL clamping down on gingerphobic chants at grounds, but will this happen before James Graham spits his dummy out and show that the RFL will not tolerate any such behaviour in our great sport or will they wait until after the horse has bolted again? The heavy fine for me is simply because GT hasn't shut up about it all in the press and they feel they have to make an example of this. Quite hypocrital for me when they allow much more to continually go on at every RL ground.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:13 am  

marshman wrote:

How behind the times am I? No I wasn't chanting the songs, I mean i've just had to catch up on a full ten page thread. That was exhausting. For the record, I'm not gay, i'm not racist, i didn't chant at GT so no need for anyone to waste bandwidth questioning me on any of them.


So yeah, it's pretty obvious after all this that GT took it the wrong way. Despite the fact that he didn't want to make a big thing about being gay, he's rattled on about it like a woman. He should have just taken it like a man and ignored it all.


Lots has been discussed and i won't go over the many same arguments. But one thing about this whole country that annoys me is that we find racism and sexuality high on the list of things not to abuse others of, and quite rightly so. This because at the end of the day, it's how they are and there's nothing anyone can do about it, and it is after all 2010 and we're all just the same. But as a country, we find it totally socially acceptable to attack ginger haired people. So much so that TV and radio presenters can openly attack ginger haired people (could they do this to gay or black people) and this goes all the way through to RL fans chanting at grounds. We have people on this thread telling us that no one should separate white from black, gay from straight but these people know that the ginger chants go on in RL and it is totally acceptable. Someone explain to me what is different? Is it ok to chant at James Graham and call him a fat ginger barsteward (he is tubby and ginger, not sure about the barsteward bit) but not ok to shout at Gareth Thomas for being gay (when he is gay, he admits it, just check out the umpteen times he's told us all on radio, TV, newspapers and internet). I don't see a difference tbh, someone convince me otherwise.

I'm looking forward to the RL clamping down on gingerphobic chants at grounds, but will this happen before James Graham spits his dummy out and show that the RFL will not tolerate any such behaviour in our great sport or will they wait until after the horse has bolted again? The heavy fine for me is simply because GT hasn't shut up about it all in the press and they feel they have to make an example of this. Quite hypocrital for me when they allow much more to continually go on at every RL ground.

Do you never learn Marshy, that sort of statement caused all this trouble

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:19 am  

While they were at it they should have had a go at him for being a big shiny baldy head too.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:25 am  

Kosh wrote:

This thread is almost as embarrassing as the incident that lead to the fine. Some quite extraordinary comments and attitudes on display.

I understand that people are angry that the actions of a moronic few have lead to the club as a whole being punished, but lashing out at everyone else really isn't doing you any favours.

Most of the fans are angry at the severity of the fine and the few 'posters' who are tarring Castleford as a homophobic hotbed. The 'Holier than Thou' attitude sticks in the throat given the previous form of some other club's fans.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:27 am  

Pieman wrote:

Im not saying its right mate but have wire or hull been given any such fines? they are worse than yours (prepare to be hammered). Im not saying you are saints but a level playing field, if you guys warrant £40k so do most of super league.

You, "sir", are a helmet of the highest order.
Yes, you deserve to be hammered, for making such a ridiculous statement.
Having been an everpresent on the Wilderspool/HJ terraces for the last 31 years, I have NEVER heard homophobic abuse (Ian Roberts, anyone), and racial slurs (which were common place across many sports) were a thing of the 80's.
Would you care to substantiate your comment, or were just tarring my (and Hull's club) with a rather nasty slur. PRAT

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:37 am  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

You, "sir", are a helmet of the highest order.
Yes, you deserve to be hammered, for making such a ridiculous statement.
Having been an everpresent on the Wilderspool/HJ terraces for the last 31 years, I have NEVER heard homophobic abuse (Ian Roberts, anyone), and racial slurs (which were common place across many sports) were a thing of the 80's.
Would you care to substantiate your comment, or were just tarring my (and Hull's club) with a rather nasty slur. PRAT

I have seen Wire fans beat an old man to death with his own walking stick, just to steal his dog. They also swore while they were doing it. The stewards did nothing, and the RFL gave them a grant for it to build their new stadium. How unfair is that?

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:49 am  

Therailwayendisuponus. wrote:

I have seen Wire fans beat an old man to death with his own walking stick, just to steal his dog. They also swore while they were doing it. The stewards did nothing, and the RFL gave them a grant for it to build their new stadium. How unfair is that?

Spits coffee all over the screen. WHAT. Shurely shome mishtake. Would we not have heard of this murder.