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Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:58 pm  
rupert bear wrote:
Who would have been fined had it been Cas fans chanting at Wrexham?

If it had been Leeds fans chanting at Wrexham Cas would prob have been fined.
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Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:31 pm  
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Equity? Balance? Fairness? Strange concepts to a Wiganner maybe, but quite a lot of people stand by them.

if a taxi driver was hauled before the courts for not having a bale of hay in his boot (or whatever the archaic law is) then he might have cause to wonder why he's the only one picked on when it's patently obvious that every f**ker else is breaking the same law too.


That is still no reason to complain that you have been caught not doing enough to stop the abusive chanting. There is, as yet, no evidence that such chanting has been heard at other games so the point is mute.

Disco wrote:
They took steps. As I understand it they made tannoy announcements and sent stewards into the crowd.

Again, as I understand it Cas have had CCTV installed to monitor the crowd, but perhaps we're missing a trick here. Do other clubs insist on passports and DNA swabs?

They did challenge it. You concede they 'may' be able to appeal this.


Then if all these steps have been taken, the fine will have to be revoked and an apology served from Red Hall, won't it. Maybe an internal inquiry could be held at Cas to find out why this evidence of what the club did (which only seems to have appeared very late in this thread) was not presented when the fine was first imposed.

Disco wrote:
No idea if they did, but the word 'meaningful' makes this entirely subjective anyway.

Many items in law are subjective, being decided ultimately by tribunals, majistrates, and judges. That doesn't lessen their validity.
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Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:57 pm  
How do you stop some fool from shouting abuse ?
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Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:48 pm  
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How do you stop some fool from shouting abuse ?


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Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:02 pm  
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Stop putting words into my mouth. It's a shame for Cas we played first because we got fined, I didn't say I would be supportive of any other club getting fined - I would still be as appalled as I am. Of course I'd PREFER it to happen to a club that isn't my own, but that doesn't mean I would agree with it.

And I've never said people are homosexual through choice either.

Its a shame for cas that they have a small minority of fans that keep causing the club so much trouble! the homosexuality through choice remark was aimed at others,apologies if you thought otherwise. :HUG:
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Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:32 pm  
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The RFL have set a very high bar now regarding not tolerrating discriminations against players. I do hope they do not think it is OK to make fun out of people with ginger hair as that would be the same of this issue. I would fully expect them now to come down on Leeds and Wigan after the below comments;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/oc ... lens-leeds

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=455274&start=0

http://www.nonleagueforum.co.uk/viewtop ... pid=233608


As ever Si i bow to your aptitude, not alot of responses though, i wonder why :THINK:
Riggins wrote:
The RFL have set a very high bar now regarding not tolerrating discriminations against players. I do hope they do not think it is OK to make fun out of people with ginger hair as that would be the same of this issue. I would fully expect them now to come down on Leeds and Wigan after the below comments;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/oc ... lens-leeds

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=455274&start=0

http://www.nonleagueforum.co.uk/viewtop ... pid=233608


As ever Si i bow to your aptitude, not alot of responses though, i wonder why :THINK:
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Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:29 pm  
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The RFL have set a very high bar now regarding not tolerrating discriminations against players. I do hope they do not think it is OK to make fun out of people with ginger hair as that would be the same of this issue. I would fully expect them now to come down on Leeds and Wigan after the below comments;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/oc ... lens-leeds
Mute point as the player didn't complain (unless you are using the link to suggest GT shouldn't have complained?)

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=455274&start=0
Wrong again but given this refers to comments on a thread not at the game (unless I've missed something) do you expect the RFL to take action based on what they read on a thread? If you do then hope they don't read this viewtopic.php?f=16&t=457708

http://www.nonleagueforum.co.uk/viewtop ... pid=233608 Given this a a football thread would you like to include the thuggery from football as well as their view on ginger people, or is it just a thread that fitted the argument?
Riggins wrote:
The RFL have set a very high bar now regarding not tolerrating discriminations against players. I do hope they do not think it is OK to make fun out of people with ginger hair as that would be the same of this issue. I would fully expect them now to come down on Leeds and Wigan after the below comments;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/oc ... lens-leeds
Mute point as the player didn't complain (unless you are using the link to suggest GT shouldn't have complained?)

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=455274&start=0
Wrong again but given this refers to comments on a thread not at the game (unless I've missed something) do you expect the RFL to take action based on what they read on a thread? If you do then hope they don't read this viewtopic.php?f=16&t=457708

http://www.nonleagueforum.co.uk/viewtop ... pid=233608 Given this a a football thread would you like to include the thuggery from football as well as their view on ginger people, or is it just a thread that fitted the argument?
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Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:42 pm  
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That is still no reason to complain that you have been caught not doing enough to stop the abusive chanting. There is, as yet, no evidence that such chanting has been heard at other games so the point is mute.

I suppose you could argue the point is moot, but given that we're on 12 pages already, it's certainly not 'mute'.
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Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:11 pm  
talulah wrote:
That is still no reason to complain that you have been caught not doing enough to stop the abusive chanting. There is, as yet, no evidence that such chanting has been heard at other games so the point is mute.

Then if all these steps have been taken, the fine will have to be revoked and an apology served from Red Hall, won't it. Maybe an internal inquiry could be held at Cas to find out why this evidence of what the club did (which only seems to have appeared very late in this thread) was not presented when the fine was first imposed.

Many items in law are subjective, being decided ultimately by tribunals, majistrates, and judges. That doesn't lessen their validity.


Actually gareth thomas in one of his many interviews on the subject has said that he suffered similar chanting at another ground afterwards.
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Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:47 pm  
He's on the woe is me trip now thats for sure, TBH i couldnt give a To$$ what GT thinks, And lets face it, the RFL doesnt give a To$$ what i think so all is fair in war as they say
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