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Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:45 pm  

talulah wrote:

The fact that they only got banned after the club were fined seems to indicate a reluctance to do anything about it - which is why the club were fined in the first place.

Shame they didn't ban the fans in the week following the incident, then they wouldn't have got fined would they?

In Cas's defense (and I don't do that often) it isn't like CSI on telly where they have face recognition software etc. I'm sure it took time to identify, and get those people to the club, to issue warnings and banning orders.

I think Cas are doing their best to catch up on this and I also think that they are setting a precedent too.
Now that as ARE doing something, it puts pressure on other clubs to do the same to their own idiots (we all have them)......otherwise there should be more fines coming.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:12 pm  

talulah wrote:

Actually most people are probably still perplexed at your original statement, and waiting for some more information to back it up.

Can you please enlighten us all as to what this "evidence" is that may have only just appeared?

Please can you explain how CCTV footage, knowledge of the chanting that occurred, and knowledge of the rules under the Respect agenda is still unsufficient for the club to have banned the individuals concerned, until after the fine?

Precisely. But that doesn't suit Pyemans narrative, so he won't respond with anything of relevance.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:28 pm  

Gurus_Beard wrote:

They retrospectively installed cameras?
They retrospectively accrued views of those around the idiots post fine?
They retrospectively decided it was of value to do so, because of the fine.

Either way, a common theme occurs. That the club is only now placing a value on it's significance.

Bet your a twin

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:52 am  

Speedy wrote:

Bet your a twin

Whilst will I wager you struggled with English at school and are unable to make any accurate assumptions.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:56 am  

Gurus_Beard wrote:

Whilst will I wager you struggled with English at school and are unable to make any accurate assumptions.

Great comeback about poor English champ

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:57 am  

ParanoidAndroid wrote:

Great comeback about poor English champ

And the irony light is switched off in Cas...

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:14 am  

talulah wrote:

Actually most people are probably still perplexed at your original statement, and waiting for some more information to back it up.

Can you please enlighten us all as to what this "evidence" is that may have only just appeared?

Please can you explain how CCTV footage, knowledge of the chanting that occurred, and knowledge of the rules under the Respect agenda is still unsufficient for the club to have banned the individuals concerned, until after the fine?

As i understand it the individuals concerned bragged about there actions on a well known social networking site, this was reported to the club and used as evidence for the banning orders.

cctv evidence can sometimes identify people but sometimes it cant, which is why despite having more cctv in this country than anywhere on earth we dont have the lowest crime rate (or anywhere near).

The club can only ban an individual when they have sufficient evidence otherwise they leave themselves open to being sued. As soon as sufficient evidence is gathered they are banned until then they cannot be banned.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:20 am  

pyeman wrote:

As i understand it the individuals concerned bragged about there actions on a well known social networking site, this was reported to the club and used as evidence for the banning orders.

cctv evidence can sometimes identify people but sometimes it cant, which is why despite having more cctv in this country than anywhere on earth we dont have the lowest crime rate (or anywhere near).

The club can only ban an individual when they have sufficient evidence otherwise they leave themselves open to being sued. As soon as sufficient evidence is gathered they are banned until then they cannot be banned.

Let's also consider that it's almost definitely much easier to identify someone fighting or throwing something than it is someone chanting something via CCTV.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:33 am  

Legionited wrote:

Let's also consider that it's almost definitely much easier to identify someone fighting or throwing something than it is someone chanting something via CCTV.

Exactly a proving that an individual was actually chanting a specific phrase using only an image would never stand up in a court of law.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:07 am  

Gurus_Beard wrote:

And the irony light is switched off in Cas...

Yup, because it was a blatantly obvious attempt at irony.