: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:33 am  

pyeman wrote:

You could easily say the same for hudson when he was out, by the time he got back from his injury he had missed more games than he had played, but for some reason that doesnt get a mention (not having a go at the signing oof hudson he's brought alot to the team and i'm glad we have him long term).

Yeah but he's not an overseas player is he? We all know that they have to perform week in, week out, to garner faint praise, any bad game then he is a waste of money/a quota spot. There are some 'homegrown' players who can get away with being (below) average without attracting any attention/damnation.

Faint whiff of xenophobia/jingoism if you ask me

: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:38 am  

BamBam2001 wrote:

Sean Long is a better player than Brent Sherwin and I support Cas.

Have you taken into account the quality of players around each of them and asked yourself whether Long would have played as many games in NRL as Shifty.

: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:43 am  

smoking monkey wrote:

Have you taken into account the quality of players around each of them and asked yourself whether Long would have played as many games in NRL as Shifty.

point taken but we play in SL and IMO the better SH out of the two in question for CTRLFC would be SL which is why TM tried to sign Long as did most other coaches in SL. Hull offered big money!

: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:55 am  

ParanoidAndroid wrote:

Yeah but he's not an overseas player is he? We all know that they have to perform week in, week out, to garner faint praise, any bad game then he is a waste of money/a quota spot. There are some 'homegrown' players who can get away with being (below) average without attracting any attention/damnation.

Faint whiff of xenophobia/jingoism if you ask me

Exactley is at a coincidence that chase, sherwin, sarge, dorn, widders, guttenbiel etc have all got alot more flack than if they had been english?

: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:01 am  

I find it funny that there is an advert right at the bottom of this thread

"have you been injured?"

: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:01 am  

WRE wrote:

if hudson was to miss most of next season to then i would say exactly the say - always the risk when you sign players nearing the end of their carreers so 3 and 4 year deals make me roll around the floor laughing but feeling very uneasy also.

Well currentley hudson has missed more game this season than sherwin has and whats more sherwin has played 36 games for us in two seasons so far (with at least 4 possible outings to go) which though it isnt great isnt as poor as alot of people make out, like on the other forum it was said that he has missed more game than he has played which is clearly rubbish.

: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:29 am  

i would question how many of them 36 are SL games!

: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:36 am  

WRE wrote:

i would question how many of them 36 are SL games!

33, non sl appearances being quins in the cup last year, and kieghly and fax this year.

: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:45 am  

pyeman wrote:

33, non sl appearances being quins in the cup last year, and kieghly and fax this year.

so out of 54 SL (50 to date) BS had figured in 66%. and i assume that you are pleased with this?

: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:51 am  

WRE wrote:

so out of 54 SL (50 to date) BS had figured in 66%. and i assume that you are pleased with this?

What a stupid question.

Of course i'm not pleased, i'm pleased if any single player misses any single match through injury, i'm not pleased that hudson has missed 10 sl matches out of of 23 either but as we support a sport where injuries are common place its to be expected that players get injured and when players get injured they miss matches.

On this thread your saying we would have been better off with sean long a player with a much worse injury record, would you be more pleased with long out injured at cas than shifty out injured at cas?