Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:12 pm  

Him wrote:

It's a lot more straight forward than some people are making it.

Solomona had a contract with Cas. He can't just decide he doesn't want it anymore. Nobody can retire from their job or from a contract just when they want to without the agreement of their employer.
Sale knew he had a contract with Cas as they made an offer for him. If they had any contact with Solomona before his "retirement" then they can be done for inducing him to break his contract.

Either way they owe Cas some money.

I agree with this. Plus, there is precedent with Rugby Union clubs having previously paid fees for Rugby League players who were under contract, so then add in that Sale originally made an offer to Cas for Solomona that was rejected and that is enough evidence in my eyes that they knew what they were doing and have induced him to break his contract. They tried to do it legitimately, didn't get what they wanted and so have tried to exploit a loophole, and Solomona clearly can't have followed retirement protocols. Surely any Court in the land would not allow this to happen - if a Court ruled in favour of Solomona/Sale, it sets a very dangerous precedent that would have wide reaching implications on all areas of business where fixed contract terms are used. That precedent and subsequent implications would be much bigger than just RL/RU or sport in general.

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:25 pm  

Wow Wigan talk about bad timing! Today's tweet. Next stop today is a trip to @SaleSharksRugby and a chance to catch up with old friends @DeacsPaul and @Joshuacharnley. #WarriorsRoadtrip https://twitter.com/WiganWarriorsRL/sta ... 1898277888

Wow Wigan talk about bad timing! Today's tweet. Next stop today is a trip to @SaleSharksRugby and a chance to catch up with old friends @DeacsPaul and @Joshuacharnley. #WarriorsRoadtrip https://twitter.com/WiganWarriorsRL/sta ... 1898277888

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:01 pm  

Yes - that is bad and shows how out of touch Wigan are. Simple for me - I'll now save myself and family about £120. Boycott the Tigers away game at Wigan in April.

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:11 pm  

Cas fans have boycotted Wigan away for years....


But on a serious note, that is pretty shoddy from Wigan. They have had it planned for a couple of weeks, but there was nothing stopping them either pulling out or just not publicising it.

Anyway, this is about Solomona / Sale, not nasty orrible Wiggin.

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:35 pm  

Orrell Lad wrote:

Cas fans have boycotted Wigan away for years....

Where are you getting this from? Cas always bring a healthy number.

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:54 pm  

Orrell Lad wrote:

Cas fans have boycotted Wigan away for years....


But on a serious note, that is pretty shoddy from Wigan. They have had it planned for a couple of weeks, but there was nothing stopping them either pulling out or just not publicising it.

Anyway, this is about Solomona / Sale, not nasty orrible Wiggin.

No. It is about showing solidarity (sorry, horrible commy word) with a fellow member of our sport. Sale show complete and utter disregard for rugby league and our player contracts, then 48 hours later Wigan (who's owner also runs a business with Mr Clarke) head over there on a school trip.

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:16 pm  

Orrell Lad wrote:

Cas fans have boycotted Wigan away for years.....

How come Wigan fans boycotted last year's cup semi ?

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:46 pm  

And all this trouble is caused by Sale. Imagine if a bigger RU club planned to do the same?

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:05 pm  

Sale debut this weekend. Has he just served his 3 year residency? Stroke of luck that, could be an England player next month.

Re: Denny Solomona speculation & implications : Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:01 pm  

Willzay wrote:

And all this trouble is caused by Sale. Imagine if a bigger RU club planned to do the same?

I imagine they will if Sale and Solomona get away with it this time.
The RFL need to grow some balls on this one. Any player found to be in breach of contract should be banned from the game. Any agent found to have supported a player to breach his contract should be banned too.
If Solomona is prevented from returning to RL and Andy Clarke is banned as an agent, players and agents will need to think very carefully about doing the same in the future.
In fact, the club's have a role to play here too. They should all be refusing to deal with Clarke whilst he is under investigation and if the RFL investigation finds he supported Solomona in breaching his contract. The threat of losing all their clients will soon deter agents from behaving in a similar way to Clarke.
Let the courts deal with this case, but put deterrents in place so it can't happen again.