Re: Richie Mathers : Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:15 am  

Gurus_Beard wrote:

Your concept of irony is quite outstanding.

Still not interested in any sort of rugby debate i see?

Anyway its a nice day outside why dont you enjoy it before the school holidays are over?

Re: Richie Mathers : Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:22 am  

pyeman wrote:

Still not interested in any sort of rugby debate i see?

Anyway its a nice day outside why dont you enjoy it before the school holidays are over?

And that kind of pseudo comedic response is precisely the reason that your musings on this topic remain both incorrect and spurious at best.

I should leave the Billy Pearce material for those who can carry it off sunshine.

Re: Richie Mathers : Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:37 am  

Gurus_Beard wrote:

And that kind of pseudo comedic response is precisely the reason that your musings on this topic remain both incorrect and spurious at best.

I should leave the Billy Pearce material for those who can carry it off sunshine.

Very droll, still not doing anything to convince anyone on here your anything other than an idiot though.

Re: Richie Mathers : Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:21 pm  

pyeman wrote:

Very droll, still not doing anything to convince anyone on here your anything other than an idiot though.

Because you haven't the intellect to engage in debate or sustain your point as to why you think an 18 year old with a broken leg and no track record is better than a Grand Final winning, England international, (who scored in the World Club Challenge having had a top class game against Canterbury Bulldogs) former NRL player, who was deemed good enough to replace a still excellent Gary Connolly in '04 with admirers including Tony Smith, Brian Noble and seemingly your current coach for his recent form and ability.

But let's not let facts get in the way of your spurious offerings. Feel free to continue with your working men's club comedy and 1970's insults.

Re: Richie Mathers : Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:47 pm  

Why the petty arguments.

Mathers is not the player he was at Leeds, certainly not consistently as he was at Leeds. But he is a damn site better player than most you already have.

Owen is indeed a class fullback, but you have no guarantees that he will be the same player when he returns. Indeed the reason Mathers is not the same player he was at Leeds is that he's had two knee reconstructions since then, and only this season is now starting to recover fully from it.

Mathers is far better than the likes of McGoldrick, Evans, Wainwright, Dixon. And how many players have you played at scrumhalf this year? I bet Mathers would be better than all of them in that role.

Re: Richie Mathers : Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:55 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

Why the petty arguments.

Mathers is not the player he was at Leeds, certainly not consistently as he was at Leeds. But he is a damn site better player than most you already have.

Owen is indeed a class fullback, but you have no guarantees that he will be the same player when he returns. Indeed the reason Mathers is not the same player he was at Leeds is that he's had two knee reconstructions since then, and only this season is now starting to recover fully from it.

Mathers is far better than the likes of McGoldrick, Evans, Wainwright, Dixon. And how many players have you played at scrumhalf this year? I bet Mathers would be better than all of them in that role.

Precisely my point. Mathers of any era offers a superior option to the current Tigers backline.

Re: Richie Mathers : Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:20 pm  

Gurus_Beard wrote:

Because you haven't the intellect to engage in debate or sustain your point as to why you think an 18 year old with a broken leg and no track record is better than a Grand Final winning, England international, (who scored in the World Club Challenge having had a top class game against Canterbury Bulldogs) former NRL player, who was deemed good enough to replace a still excellent Gary Connolly in '04 with admirers including Tony Smith, Brian Noble and seemingly your current coach for his recent form and ability.

But let's not let facts get in the way of your spurious offerings. Feel free to continue with your working men's club comedy and 1970's insults.

Your the one who has ben displaying a lack of intellect.

Your also wrong about owens age, he's 20, why him having a broken leg at this time should make any differance to his qaulity is beyond me, seen long is injured at the moment is chris thorman suddenly a better half back. how is richard owen umproven he's played proffesional rl from a young age, always looked class, took the step up to sl in his stride whilst being safer under the high ball than mathers, faster than mathers, scoring more tries than mathers and with a better disciplinary record than mathers. He's been in a side that won a trophy so what? ricky bibey must be a class act then. he played in the nrl, so have chris feather and chris thorman and they arent good enough to play in sl anymore. if tony smith thought he was that good why is he replacing him? why isnt noble making a move to take him to wrexham? and if terry materson does rate him and currently there is no evidence this is true to my knowledge, that just proves that he is considered to be as good as ryan clayton. If he's so highly rated by coaches how come his last 3 coaches have got rid of him?

Whilst you didnt quite stop acting like a child, at least you attempted some form of debate, well done, even it was a load of rubbish, at least your trying.

Re: Richie Mathers : Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:28 am  

pyeman wrote:

Owen is a far better fullback, it really is that simple.

Apparantly he's signed for St Helens, along with Shenton.

Re: Richie Mathers : Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:53 am  

Chief Scout wrote:

Apparantly he's signed for St Helens, along with Shenton.

proof ?

Re: Richie Mathers : Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:05 am  

ParanoidAndroid wrote:

No, not just the one, quite a few in his career, let's just brush his career at Wigan under the carpet eh? If he is that fantastic, why are Warrington replacing him?

Not completely sure but I think Warrington are replacing him with Brett Hodgson because of his goalkicking as well as him being a better player also.