Re: Rumours and Signings - All in one Place! : Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:00 pm  

mat wrote:

bradford for a start. kearney,lestrange,lulia,purtell,sammut. The quota doesnt reduce next year. this was the last year it reduced.

Sammut as all of this years crusaders squad are exempt

Re: Rumours and Signings - All in one Place! : Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:15 pm  

Bethman wrote:

Sammut as all of this years crusaders squad are exempt

not yet he isnt. we've asked RFL for clarification whether he's exempt or not. he was signed before the dispensations were awarded. As such he'd have put us on 5 quota players and RFL registered him before they decided to grant dispensations. Quota is definitely 5 Overseas and 5 non-fed trained.

Re: Rumours and Signings - All in one Place! : Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:55 pm  

Armstrong from Saints, is rumoured, to be being lined up by Millward after working with him on dual contract at Leigh. Can play either centre or either wing.

Re: Rumours and Signings - All in one Place! : Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:48 pm  

I would say why would Saints allow him to leave if he's any good. But Emmitt left, he was quality for us this year. Fingers crossed. Dont think we'll see any activity until Leigh's season comes to an end and Millward joins us. could be a month + yet me thinks.

Re: Rumours and Signings - All in one Place! : Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:19 am  

Towns88 wrote:

I would say why would Saints allow him to leave if he's any good. But Emmitt left, he was quality for us this year. Fingers crossed. Dont think we'll see any activity until Leigh's season comes to an end and Millward joins us. could be a month + yet me thinks.

Armstrong is quality, everyone is raving about him. Especially Millward

Re: Rumours and Signings - All in one Place! : Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:05 am  

Towns88 wrote:

I would say why would Saints allow him to leave if he's any good. But Emmitt left, he was quality for us this year. Fingers crossed. Dont think we'll see any activity until Leigh's season comes to an end and Millward joins us. could be a month + yet me thinks.

Emmitt and Armstrong both surplus to requirements at Saints both sent out on DR to Leigh, both called back into Saints team and both possibly at Cas 2012 - Millward gets the best from average players.

In his Saints team he had Stankevitch and Jonkers in the pack, and they were winning pots.

Re: Rumours and Signings - All in one Place! : Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:16 pm  

There are a lot of internal politics at Saints, as in all clubs, that fans don't often get to hear about. The circumstances of Ellis, Emmitt, Ashurst and Armstrong have been governed by such forces rather than playing ability. Under different management/coaching, they will all turn out to be very good players at other clubs. Emmitt has proven this during this season. If Ashurst goes to Salford, he'll have more chance of developing than at Saints. Ellis has proven that he is too good for the Championship, and will be a good acquisition for Hull. Armstrong has only ever played one game for Saints in his best position - centre, and showed how good he was, only to suffer a really bad hamstring injury. Since then, he has been asked to play 2nd row, wing and fullback. Under Millward he has been excellent at Leigh playing centre, and would also develop into a very good SL centre with the same coach.

Re: Rumours and Signings - All in one Place! : Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:18 pm  

neverdid wrote:

Dont forget dita .... any mug with money can buy a squad, but they will never be yours , just mercenaries.
I wonder if Smith could coach without a chequebook

1. Having a 'mug with money' is the difference between success and mediocrity.....Let's be honest, if a Simon Moran character walked into Wheldon Road, you lot would be ecstatic and wouldn't mind the odd mercenary (Saying that, the only difference between us and you, seems to be our mercenaries are a bit more talented, as I don't see a full 17 of local-born lads in your line-up either).

2. Cullen and Lowes had the same chequebook that Smith currently has access to, yet won nothing....Smith has 2 Challenge Cups and a League Leaders Shield in just 28 months in charge....He can't be that bad??

Re: Rumours and Signings - All in one Place! : Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:22 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

1. Having a 'mug with money' is the difference between success and mediocrity.....Let's be honest, if a Simon Moran character walked into Wheldon Road

Branson & Caddick both tried, Fulton told them both to get lost

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

2. Cullen and Lowes had the same chequebook that Smith currently has access to, yet won nothing....Smith has 2 Challenge Cups and a League Leaders Shield in just 28 months in charge....He can't be that bad??

Cullen & Lowes are idiots though.

Re: Rumours and Signings - All in one Place! : Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:34 pm  

Gronk! wrote:

Cullen & Lowes are idiots though.

No argument against your assessment of Lowes, however, its a bit harsh on Cullen....He did a good job in the early days of his tenure, but simply got out of his depth as our ambitions rose....I feel sorry for him that he obviously has this poor reputation among Super League fans, he isn't a poor coach and we were never in danger of losing our Super League status with him in charge, which can't be said of your incoming saviour's reign at Wigan, when he had access to similar funds to Cullen...

Tony Smith is obviously fortunate to have such a supportive backer in Simon Moran, but you only have to look at our style of play and complete change in culture at the club, to realise he is a very good and very intellegent coach.