Re: If success is cyclical, where are Leeds currently? : Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:42 am  

G1 wrote:

As a fan of the club that took most of Wigan's cast offs I can confirm the only one they may have got wrong was Hanley who remained class for Leeds, even though Wigan got his best years.

The rest of the Wigan legends that ended up at Leeds ranged from average to a disaster

Well I would't say David Furner was either average or a disaster - but each to his own opinion

Re: If success is cyclical, where are Leeds currently? : Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:47 am  

Juan Cornetto wrote:

Well I would't say David Furner was either average or a disaster - but each to his own opinion

He also didn't come to Leeds between 1985 - 1996

Re: If success is cyclical, where are Leeds currently? : Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:15 am  

Butter Fingered Iro?

He never had a hair out of place. He was one good looking so and so.

Re: If success is cyclical, where are Leeds currently? : Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:13 pm  

Furner leaving was BIG mistake at Wigan. We had an outstanding crop of young players just starting to emerge, O'Loughlin, Hock, Brown, Robinson, Aspinwall, Hodgson, Wild, Tickle etc.

However we lost the likes of O'Connor, Lam, Craig Smith, Pongia, Cassidy and Farrell within a short space of time, plus of course Mike Gregorys sad illness.
The kids did well generally and won some great tussles against Saints and yourselves, but the lack of experienced leaders around them eventually took it's toll.

Re: If success is cyclical, where are Leeds currently? : Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:25 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

We had an outstanding crop of young players just starting to emerge, O'Loughlin, Hock, Brown, Robinson, Aspinwall, Hodgson, Wild, Tickle etc.

You let most of them go anyway.

Re: If success is cyclical, where are Leeds currently? : Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:35 pm  

thebloodbath wrote:

Rogues Gallery wrote:

We had an outstanding crop of young players just starting to emerge, O'Loughlin, Hock, Brown, Robinson, Aspinwall, Hodgson, Wild, Tickle etc.

You let most of them go anyway.

yeah, but it was worth it for the likes of Phelps, Bailey, Paaliasena, Gleeson et al

Re: If success is cyclical, where are Leeds currently? : Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:52 pm  

The Eagle wrote:

yeah, but it was worth it for the likes of Phelps, Bailey, Paaliasena, Gleeson et al

Who needs Furners wisdom when you can get Danny Orrs.

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: If success is cyclical, where are Leeds currently? : Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:34 pm  

thebloodbath wrote:

Who needs Furners wisdom when you can get Danny Orrs.

Re: If success is cyclical, where are Leeds currently? : Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:46 pm  

G1 wrote:

As a fan of the club that took most of Wigan's cast offs I can confirm the only one they may have got wrong was Hanley who remained class for Leeds, even though Wigan got his best years.

The rest of the Wigan legends that ended up at Leeds ranged from average to a disaster

I would also argue that although a gamble, the fact we had Clarke & Betts emerging as back rowers (Specifically Clarke) meant the loss of Hanley to Wigan wasn't as significant as we,prior that point, would have thought.
To Leeds he may have been exceptional (And I didn't watch him week in week out when he left unlike yourself) but he didn't really come back to haunt us and Wigan fans (With Hindsight) didnt look back on it as a bad thing that he left.

As for Sally's point about it meaning we were able to afford Offiah then i would disagree.
That came much later, hanley had decided by April 91 that he was going to Leeds, The Offiah situation was still "Up in the air" December 91 & early Jan 92.

Re: If success is cyclical, where are Leeds currently? : Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:24 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

As for Sally's point about it meaning we were able to afford Offiah then i would disagree.
That came much later, hanley had decided by April 91 that he was going to Leeds, The Offiah situation was still "Up in the air" December 91 & early Jan 92.

But Wigan had that transfer fee in their pocket which reduced Leeds spending power and increased theirs, which was significant given that Leeds and Wigan were in a bidding war for Offiah.