: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:54 am  

Sibbs Rhinos wrote:

Same with me and they were so confident too!!! And i remember all the comments of its a disgrace to the game and Tansey should be banned!! Ah good days!

While taking your blue and amber specs off:

Klein's illegal intervention on the offside that never occurred and Ganson missing Tansey being offside at the resulting kick and not referring it to the video referee was a disgrace to the game.

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:01 pm  

tvoc wrote:

While taking your blue and amber specs off:

Klein's illegal intervention on the offside that never occurred and Ganson missing Tansey being offside at the resulting kick and not referring it to the video referee was a disgrace to the game.

Sorry TVOC, had it been against any other team I would be ashamed, but as it was against the Bulls, it was PRICELESS!

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:02 pm  

tvoc wrote:

While taking your blue and amber specs off:

Klein's illegal intervention on the offside that never occurred and Ganson missing Tansey being offside at the resulting kick and not referring it to the video referee was a disgrace to the game.

Hey, I was at Elland Road the day David Laws "threw" the ball over the try line and got the 4 points. And that was a CC semi final. Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you.

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:06 pm  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Gf80CVX3M Lets remind ourselves eh! My favourite bits when Harris is whinging at Ganson!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Gf80CVX3M Lets remind ourselves eh! My favourite bits when Harris is whinging at Ganson!

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:21 pm  

tvoc wrote:

While taking your blue and amber specs off:

Klein's illegal intervention on the offside that never occurred and Ganson missing Tansey being offside at the resulting kick and not referring it to the video referee was a disgrace to the game.

Klien's intervention call was a call that seemed right on 1st and 2nd viewing. These things happen.

If not spotting players off-side from kicks is a disgrace to the game then every single SL referee must be disgracing the game every single week.

Oh, I see your point.

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:36 pm  

G1 wrote:

Klien's intervention call was a call that seemed right on 1st and 2nd viewing. These things happen.

If not spotting players off-side from kicks is a disgrace to the game then every single SL referee must be disgracing the game every single week.

Oh, I see your point.

I don't think you do. Klein's call (while well intentioned) was an illegal intervention on his part. The video ref had no right to shout anything into the referees ear in that instance according to their instructions at the time. Klein took it upon himself to intervene and if that wasn't bad enough he got the call wrong.

Protecting the integrity of the game is something the RFL should take seriously.

Seeing an offside at a dead ball situation is fairly straightforward when the referee is correctly positioned. Ganson was at fault and at least had the good grace to accept that he was and issue an apology.

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:00 pm  

tvoc wrote:

I don't think you do. Klein's call (while well intentioned) was an illegal intervention on his part. The video ref had no right to shout anything into the referees ear in that instance according to their instructions at the time. Klein took it upon himself to intervene and if that wasn't bad enough he got the call wrong.

Protecting the integrity of the game is something the RFL should take seriously.
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In an age where we're trying to help the referees as much as we can I see no problem with the ref upstairs helping out. They did it before and they still do it. Ganson was at it (again) on Saturday.

I don't see how that affects the integrity of the game any more than referring a decision to a Video Ref.

Seeing an offside at a dead ball situation is fairly straightforward when the referee is correctly positioned. Ganson was at fault and at least had the good grace to accept that he was and issue an apology

Maybe he was distracted by Newton infringing the 10 metres and refusing to stand still, despite being instructed to do so?

: Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:13 pm  

G1 wrote:

In an age where we're trying to help the referees as much as we can I see no problem with the ref upstairs helping out. They did it before and they still do it. Ganson was at it (again) on Saturday.

Ganson, as referee, is permitted to ask the video ref for clarification on an incident. That was either already in place or brought in after the MM1 incident. What shouldn't happen either then or now is the video ref interjecting without being asked to do so by the match official.

G1 wrote:

I don't see how that affects the integrity of the game any more than referring a decision to a Video Ref.

Hopefully I've covered that above. The referee makes the call and is the one to ask for assistance if he sees fit. Not someone else bellowing in his ear when not asked to do so.

G1 wrote:

Maybe he was distracted by Newton infringing the 10 metres and refusing to stand still, despite being instructed to do so?

Maybe so but then he should have dealt with Newton first before allowing the kick to take place, while ensuring Leeds weren't also infringing.

A pity Klein decided not to bellow in Ganson's ear at that point to keep his illegal intervention's balanced.